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Old 11-23-2008 | 12:49 PM
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So have it run 119 minutes, 10 minute refuel stop, no mandatory driver change.
Old 11-23-2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
So have it run 119 minutes, 10 minute refuel stop, no mandatory driver change.
Gary I like this idea...gives a guy a nice relaxed break for fuel and water and good to go to the finish. Tire management real important, could even change tires if a guy needed or wanted to. Just mtc.
Old 11-23-2008 | 02:24 PM
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Gary I like this idea...gives a guy a nice relaxed break for fuel and water and good to go to the finish. Tire management real important, could even change tires if a guy needed or wanted to. Just mtc.
If the crew was quick enough they could swap out an engine!!
Old 11-23-2008 | 07:52 PM
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60, 90, and 119 minute races.
Old 11-23-2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
60, 90, and 119 minute races.
60 doesn't sound like long enough but at Limerock its about 200 laps...
Old 11-23-2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Giacomo
It's close but, in my limited experience, I would tend to agree. At my rookie race ('08 Mid-Ohio) I spent some time discussing the issue with the leading 968 in the field (2nd in class) and note that he chose to refuel.
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It might be "close" assuming an uninterrupted (viz., no yellows) enduro. Otherwise, it's no problem. At WGI I have never added fuel during the enduro (each was a 90-minute race). I don't have a fuel cell - stock gas tank.

Not sure why Jim Child needed fuel at Mid-Ohio. He might have a fuel cell (rare for a 968) with less capacity than a stock tank; or he might prefer to race with a lighter fuel load (968's are pretty heavy cars); or he might have problems scavaging fuel from his tank when it gets below a certain level (I actually had this problem in my car for a full season - we weren't getting gas on right hand turns, especially uphill righthanders, like turn 7 at WGI); or he might have a broken fuel gauge and adds some fuel just to be sure he's got enough in the tank. Jim's a very good driver and tough to beat at Mid-O, his "home track".

Even if you don't need gas, and you're not changing drivers, it's still nice to have someone in the pits - to take tire pressures, clean the windshield and give you a bottle of water (unless you have a drink bottle in the car, in which case you can skip the bottled water).

Hope to see you at the track this year.

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Old 11-24-2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bauerjab
Two Hour Enduro seems perfect for a single driver. Drive an hour on a single tank of gas, refuel, and you're good to go.
Not all cars can run a full hour on a single tank.. One guy I race with in a 996 TT can barely make the 45 min halfway point in a 90 minute enduro.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by richard glickel
..Not sure why Jim Child needed fuel at Mid-Ohio. .. he might prefer to race with a lighter fuel load ...
Richard
Bingo...

My 944 makes it easily 90 minute on a tank. However If running a 90 minute enduro best best is to run lighter and fill up given the 5 min stop. More work, but my car tends torward understeer on a full tank. So adding gas and running lighter would make the car faster.

Now I have 90 minute enduro's with NO required stops. Those are fun. 90 mintues nose to tail with your compeition and not pit stops to break things up.

I also ran a 2 hour enduro were we needed to by rule to add 5 gallons with no time limit. So I ran 90 minutues and then came in added 5 was gone. Stop was about 1-2 mintues using a standard 5 gallon can. That was fun. I was learning Miller Motorsports park and as the enduro went on and the car got lighter on fuel I just cranked out faster and faster laps.
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I definitely like the idea of longer enduros, like two hours or more. With two or more run groups you could team up with a friend and both drive in each others enduro.
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I would also be interested in longer enduros. The enduros add multiple dimensions to racing. Tire maintanance, thoughts about fuel, maximizing pit stop length, added level of concentration. These are all things that interest me.
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Originally Posted by 993944S2
I would also be interested in longer enduros. The enduros add multiple dimensions to racing. Tire maintanance, thoughts about fuel, maximizing pit stop length, added level of concentration. These are all things that interest me.
+1.

Hi Don!

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Old 11-24-2008 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 993944S2
... maximizing pit stop length... These are all things that interest me.
I, too, am interested when my competitors maximize their pit stop length.
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I'd like to see as many sprint races as possible. One friday, maybe two saturday. Let the enduro dudes do their thing Sunday while I am driving home
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I like 1 hr enduros.......
Old 12-23-2008 | 10:33 AM
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I see that The Glen Clash lists an enduro in this months Panorama. I'm glad it was decided to keep the enduro, I like the variety and challenge it provides.


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