Still prefer the enduro. Different mindset, strategy, ability to share a car with a buddy etc...

The points sounds like a CF to me. Maybe for a season, but why for just a weekend?

 

I agree about points making more sense for a season. If we want to do points for WG, perhaps we could squeeze in an additional sprint race (would require some work though) and then count the enduro as the fourth race and it counts double.

I'd really hate to lose the enduro.

BTW: since we are on a new thread, I'm going to repost the tag-team enduro idea that I mentioned on the other thread... Comments?

Basically, the idea is that many people are very hesitant to run a multi-hour enduro because it mandates a driver change, and then you get into liability questions. So, to get around that, you have teams of cars. Let's say that you have a 4 hour enduro: I'd drive one shift in my car, and then my teammate drives the next shift in his car. If our cars are in different classes, we are placed with the class that turns the overall fastest lap time. When a person is not driving, his car is allowed to go behind the wall to do tire changes, fuel changes, etc. However, before the car goes behind the wall, the scrutineers are allowed to impound the car and check weight, rules violations, etc.

 

i also vote for sprint races only

 

I think a handicap start is gimmicky. Not only does it take the most exciting (the start is to me) part of the race away, it also introduces too much potential for screw ups.

Inverting the top 20 to 25 percent of the field would keep it safe and make it exciting til the end.

 

Mark, I agree, I really like the challenge of the enduro format and would miss it.

 

I have had to cut back on the number of races I do so I am more selective than before. I attend races with enduros. I love enduros.

 

I wasn't sure I was going to like the Handicap race at CMP and I was certainly nervous about my first enduro. Despite losing the start, I don't think there was a single person (slow or fast) at CMP that didn't really enjoy the Handicap race.

However, the enduro was by far the highlight of the weekend for me and I can't imagine not driving another during my next race weekend.

I agree that 4 sprints might get old and is not "different" at all (but instead more of the same sprint racing over and over). BUT if adopted, I would suggest inverting one of the Sprints (believe me, it's fun as hell). And also, I would score all 4 races (instead of 3 of 4)... Why have a "series" and then cut one race from the series? This would truly reward consistency.

 

With the four sprint format each race would just be a continuation of the one before it. Unless someone broke you would be racing the same cars, race after race. I say do your propsed format but with only three sprints, using the point system, and also do an enduro. I think that would be possible even with the larger number of cars at WG.

 

+1,000 - things get hairy in big bend

Last year there was some bumper car action in our race group

 

Tough going in there 4 wide..

 

How about inverting the top ten after each race? Then give the top 3 average finishing positions overall in each race group a really cool prize.

 

Mark, how about doubling contingency money for next year?

 

Now, that's a change we can all live with!

I vote for triple!

 

CDOC Mark - i'm just happy you guys are out there helping us at all!

BIG THANKS!



Now go ahead and transfer Mark L.'s CDOC dollars to my account as we discussed......

 

Pete: We really appreciate your efforts to try a new race format in PCA. I suppose that the trend towards decreased entries will continue next season, and this may draw in the 'regulars' and curious as well.
The best three of four is a great idea, which allows extra travel time if one prefers, and takes pressure off a driver if they are short on luck in one race.
Enduros often lead to a driver being isolated during a race, with door-to-door action only when lapping or being lapped. Starts are the wildcard. Multiple sprints reward racecraft and allow repairs or tuning between races.