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Old 10-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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Default I am changing profession.......

I am going to become an "landscape expert"........


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Just trying to follow my buddy Gary R........until my "excursion".........
I must have been a bit early, although it didn't feel like it......

Anyway......I hope everyone is surviving this market well......

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Old 10-22-2008, 08:48 PM
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Not really early, just turned in too gently. Car was still rotating at apex.
Old 10-22-2008, 08:49 PM
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You're still turning in too early.

At apex it was obvious you were going to run out of track. (Actually, it was obvious before the apex). So why did you stay on the gas?

From before:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...60#post5287660
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...35#post5260735
Old 10-22-2008, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo951
You're still turning in too early.

At apex it was obvious you were going to run out of track. (Actually, it was obvious before the apex). So why did you stay on the gas?

From before:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...60#post5287660
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...35#post5260735
A racer that rode with me at the event adviced me to turn in earlier if I were to consider racing.....obviously I didn't waste any time.......with the turn in that is.....

VR.........You might actually be right......
Old 10-22-2008, 09:02 PM
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well at least this time you brought it back gently!
Old 10-22-2008, 09:03 PM
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doesn't look early to me. where his left front crosses the concrete is fine, but that was one lazy turn in and that's a corner that is perfect for trailbraking in our cars (which it doesn't appear he did).
Old 10-22-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
well at least this time you brought it back gently!
I am building on my skills slowly.....

Good to hear from you Bob......
Old 10-22-2008, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean F
doesn't look early to me. where his left front crosses the concrete is fine, but that was one lazy turn in and that's a corner that is perfect for trailbraking in our cars (which it doesn't appear he did).
A very likely possibility......
I might need some karting during the off-season......
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I drive a 951, so maybe my line is slighly different.

I still think it's a tad early, but that's not the bigger problem. Just after apex, it's pretty clear he's heading outward. He's crossing the patches instead of staying on them. It doesn't sound like there's any throttle response, he just stays on the gas.

DMD: When you started going outward, across the patches, where did you think you were going to end up???
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Originally Posted by Jimbo951

DMD: When you started going outward, across the patches, where did you think you were going to end up???
To be honest Jimbo, I was never good at geography......

All I know is that I learned from my previous landscaping excursion.....
and that is to ride it out without trying to correct in the grass.....
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You look to be 1/2 a car earlier than Gary, but if you did not trail hard to the apex, your going to run out of track. Good thing you picked T8 as there are not many places at the Glen to get away with an off like that.
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Originally Posted by bobt993
You look to be 1/2 a car earlier than Gary, but if you did not trail hard to the apex, your going to run out of track. Good thing you picked T8 as there are not many places at the Glen to get away with an off like that.
I call it beginners luck (about picking the safest turn)......you are completely right.....especially about not trailbreaking hard.....
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Geography isn't the issue. It's geometry.

1) In the first part of a turn (before the apex), if you're inside the correct line, then in the 2nd part of the turn (after the apex) you'll be outside of the correct line.

2) In *most* cases, the patches are the correct line and you should be parellel to the patches. If you start inside of the patches, and then start heading outward (relative to the patches), then at the end of the turn, you'll be outside of the patches. Since most patches end at the outside edge of the track at trackout, being outside of the patches will probably put you into the grass.

Just two generic rules.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo951
Geography isn't the issue. It's geometry.

1) In the first part of a turn (before the apex), if you're inside the correct line, then in the 2nd part of the turn (after the apex) you'll be outside of the correct line.

2) In *most* cases, the patches are the correct line and you should be parellel to the patches. If you start inside of the patches, and then start heading outward (relative to the patches), then at the end of the turn, you'll be outside of the patches. Since most patches end at the outside edge of the track at trackout, being outside of the patches will probably put you into the grass.

Just two generic rules.
Good points.....I still have a lot to learn.....
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