Courtshark

Roughness is a great word for it lol. But really it's just a totally different animal. 1 minute or less, never exceeding 70mph... just not the same as being on a track. Yes you learn a LOT about car control, but there's nothing smooth about auto-X.

coss1600

flat out or part throttle. Does it matter? Faster is faster, slower is slower. Someone doing a 20 sec lap will finish 20 sec ahead barring traffic. Basic physics

TXE36

I think you missed the reference: mhm993's post #201.

NYoutftr

This was an issue for me at my first ever track event, WGI.
All the things that a complete newbie had to keep focused on and coming up the esses and seeing the flagger indicating faster car going to pass, and I remember the instructor asking, "what did that flag mean, and where are you going to give point by?"
Geez, the two or three times I made the mistake of going off line to let a faster driver (or car) past my first weekend HPDE, that instructor drilled it through my helmet, not only not to do it, but the reasons for not doing it.

After session talks, he detailed the situation that I put us in and the car passing us.

I sure learned, "check your mirrors and MAINTAIN the driving line!"

Just another shout out, thank you to all the instructors, you are well appreciated.

coss1600

i get it, I just don’t think you realize what I am frustrated about. I was at the track over the weekend, same thing all over again

DTMiller

It's.........ALIVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEE!!!!

Gary R.

Were you driving the Koenigsegg?

991.1 Guy

It’s predictability that you’re talking about and I agree. The 12 hour cars are mixed in speed but predictably so. It is scary when you come up on a Z06 going 20 mph slower than expected (for example) nothing against corvettes.

Glyndellis

Because if you drive a Porsch-a, you are clearly naturally just fast

dgrobs

Glyn, what’s the difference between a Corvette and a porcupine?

(sorry, it was there)…

TXE36

Ooooh! Ooooh! I know! I know!

dgrobs

Horseshack ……

Mark Dreyer

Probably the best newbie student I ever had was an ex professional bicycle road racer in a Mini on slicks. I swear he was as fast as me in some of those turns his first day on track. That was a great weekend.

TXE36

I had a 16 year old girl at a street survival school show up in one the day after she got her license. Wheeled that car like a pro.

There was an exercise that was a curved slalom course that ended in a sharp left turn going into a parking spot made of cones. Students were instructed to hit the brakes and hard turn in and park the car, stopping just in front of the cones. At turn in, speed was encouraged. The purpose of the exercise was to show one could steer while hard braking with anti-lock brakes - recall that this is street survival, not track or even auto-cross driving.

Most students were pretty shy, went in slow, didn't really commit to the brakes and didn't park the car cleanly. If they were aggressive, cones usually went flying. This chick in the Mini entered the end of the exercise very hot, turned it in and simply parked it clean and square. She got a standing ovation from the cone catchers as I exclaimed, "Holy ****! I don't think I could have done that!" Picture running down the isle in the grocery store parking lot at a good clip and just stabbing the car in a spot between two parked cars, square in the center, without hitting anything all the while setting off the anti-lock brakes the whole time on the brake pedal.

I'll never forget it and had a great event as well.

Glyndellis

Hey Bruce, I represent that answer. See you in a few weeks at PittRace!

There are other jokes e.g.

What's the difference between a Corvette and a sheep? You're more embarrassed if your friends see you in a Corvette.