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Old 07-08-2020, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Me&You
The owner of the car has been discussed on FChat recently... Safe to say anyone that's read up on it will not want to be buying one of his cars.
Friend had one in red - believe it was #63 for sale at Ferrari Houston asking msrp less than 200 miles.

Old 07-09-2020, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nuvolari612
STL Motors had one right over msrp - know another that will go at msrp but odd deal.
599GTO back to msrp - tdf regardless of looks add a lot more production than GTO don't see how it holds at msrp.
Ferrari watched Lamborghini's V12 coupe / roadster price and volume - who knows but more volume the more depreciation in exotics.
Agreed 100% but some people still think they sell $200k over! A 2019 yellow gt2rs sold for $285k all in yesterday over at BAT with a $330k sticker. Thats another car was selling for $100K over. Point here is that the F40s, 959s, CGTs have kept their values but cars like Pistas and TDFs have not been able to.
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CGT000
Agreed 100% but some people still think they sell $200k over! A 2019 yellow gt2rs sold for $285k all in yesterday over at BAT with a $330k sticker. Thats another car was selling for $100K over. Point here is that the F40s, 959s, CGTs have kept their values but cars like Pistas and TDFs have not been able to.
Watched that - some paid 150k over.



Old 07-09-2020, 06:13 PM
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^^^I totally get it if someone just didn’t care and wanted one immediately. But the initial 991-2rs premiums were one of the biggest head scratchers of any car in the market I potentially have ever seen. I just did not at all “get it”, but I guess some people did. I don’t judge anyone for paying it and enjoying it. Lord knows I’ve lost plenty plenty of money on cars (as most cars are designed to do), but that 2rs premium and some of the confident 2rs value opinions had by a lot of solid car people.........man, I just never ever “got it”. Again, not the crowd that paid to play.....I totally get that. The crowd that paid because they thought 100-150 over was going to hold on that car; statements about it NEVER going near MSRP............BIGGEST head scratcher I’ve ever witnessed first hand in the car market since I’ve been in it.

An amazing car, YES! A half-mil car, NO!
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
^^^I totally get it if someone just didn’t care and wanted one immediately. But the initial 991-2rs premiums were one of the biggest head scratchers of any car in the market I potentially have ever seen. I just did not at all “get it”, but I guess some people did. I don’t judge anyone for paying it and enjoying it. Lord knows I’ve lost plenty plenty of money on cars (as most cars are designed to do), but that 2rs premium and some of the confident 2rs value opinions had by a lot of solid car people.........man, I just never ever “got it”. Again, not the crowd that paid to play.....I totally get that. The crowd that paid because they thought 100-150 over was going to hold on that car; statements about it NEVER going near MSRP............BIGGEST head scratcher I’ve ever witnessed first hand in the car market since I’ve been in it.

An amazing car, YES! A half-mil car, NO!
I don't get it either add Pista 500k SVJ 750k add roadster premium no way this holds and tdf won't either.
Daytona 500k is looking better and better 1200's production hand built beautiful 50 years later that takes some muscle to move.
GT2 GT3RS - dealers plugging fake names / charge ADM was painful to watch - fast forward GT3RS below 200 and 2RS below 300 add zero stress to own and enjoy.

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Old 07-10-2020, 02:03 PM
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You can add the Senna to the list of the cars that are selling way below MSRP already.
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Old 07-10-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by unotaz
You can add the Senna to the list of the cars that are selling way below MSRP already.
Yeah, the peak-to-trough crash and burn of the Senna's is probably the most spectacular in terms of sheer $$$. It seems like the GT2RS would have it beat in % terms, though.

Maybe one day, when the TDFs routinely trade for MSRP (let alone under), we can add them to the conversation
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Originally Posted by unotaz
You can add the Senna to the list of the cars that are selling way below MSRP already.
I am curious what you are seeing for Senna transactions? I think its a pretty epic car.
Havent seen any publicly sub 800k.
I think MSRPs seem range around $950-1.2
Old 07-11-2020, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FLGT
I am curious what you are seeing for Senna transactions? I think its a pretty epic car.
Havent seen any publicly sub 800k.
I think MSRPs seem range around $950-1.2
Been looking for second - Fox Green Carbon did well.
My spec 1.45 - full carbon
Senna customer cars breaking track records - turbo does not over heat.

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Old 07-11-2020, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by unotaz
You can add the Senna to the list of the cars that are selling way below MSRP already.
Yes add Senna but not all are created equal but for performance. MSO Carbon 1000 plus hours at MSO those should do better as *** green aggressive combination proved at auction. Could say the same about Ford (heritage) GT Carrera (pts) GT heavily sought after decades later showing a massive difference between a modified track version of a standard production. Time will tell -

Video below 7min - owner says he took it a bit ez due to rain add traffic - no idea where Senna prices go short / long term this isn't a car for faint of heart.
US 120 units breaking track records reflecting Aryton Senna - until driven one won't understand the build quality as the owner says wanna go again - try that in another car. No over heating no adding water no track support - pure lightweight performance. I believe it took the 720s to show how great Mac really is over the competition.

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Old 07-11-2020, 11:47 AM
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Wow - a $1.45m spec - must be insane. Highest I have seen around $1.2m

Having briefly driven a Senna, albeit only 30-45 min, would love to add one if prices further softened. Car is just insane.

What are you guys seeing price wise?
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Wow - a $1.45m spec - must be insane. Highest I have seen around $1.2m

Having briefly driven a Senna, albeit only 30-45 min, would love to add one if prices further softened. Car is just insane.

What are you guys seeing price wise?
Haven't had luck past 50k below list but prefer full carbon spec.
Mine is the #1 XP - there were three commissioned by O'Gara Coach all same msrp.





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Epic ^^
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Originally Posted by FLGT
Epic ^^
Thanks.
This is the performance one should expect from McLaren

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Old 07-12-2020, 04:10 AM
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Epic x2. Senna to me is the ultimate car I'd like to own for 10's, just like CGT to me for 00's, maybe one day...
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