718 GT4?
#8011
BTW, I saw/heard the 718 GT4 lapping the Ring in April and it sounds nice, but definitely more restrained than 981 version.
#8012
Yes, I think a model like the 911T could get this motor. And since the manual gearboxes for the 911 platform are not torque-limited to the degree that the mid-engine box is, I would expect a higher output (in peak torque and possibly hp too).
BTW, I saw/heard the 718 GT4 lapping the Ring in April and it sounds nice, but definitely more restrained than 981 version.
BTW, I saw/heard the 718 GT4 lapping the Ring in April and it sounds nice, but definitely more restrained than 981 version.
#8013
I highly doubt (but certainly hope I am proven wrong as it would be quite nice) that any 992 variant will have a NA engine short of the GT3/RS. The new 4.0NA engine is rumored to form the basis for the 992 Turbo (i.e. adding 2 snails on it for a 4.0TT setup). A NA Carrera T would be sweet (and befitting in a way) but don't see it happening.
While I think it is likely that the next Turbo would use this motor as its basis, I didn't get the impression that this is what AP meant...
#8018
There is now a $20k gap to fill between the GTS and GT4.
Exhaust look familiar?
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#8020
We shall see about that, everyone points out all sorts of complexity related to the GPF, backpressure and engine management systems. It might require messing with the ECU which means warranty loss.
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#8021
The main hassle is having to do this to a new car, and effectively throwing away all the good engineering 'value' (that you are paying for) that Porsche put into the car for having developed the system in the first place, and all the integration and calibration work that goes with it - probably explains some bit of the price hike.
Maybe easier to find some other way to generate a little more noise - a bypass pipe of sorts to give it a bit more wail that doesn't entirely replace the whole exhaust set-up.
Ah, actually, I've solved it - buy a 981 GT4...
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#8022
All future 718 will probably share the same exhaust...just like it happened in the 981 and earlier Cayman.
Got to keep the cost down.....besides having a new exhaust that will work with the new GPFs
Last edited by jmartpr; 07-09-2019 at 10:31 AM.
#8023
I don't think the GPF adds any complexity and it's a stand alone item.
If you look at the driveline pictures for the 718 GT4 they moved the secondary O2 sensors to the middle of the cat...that means that they are reading post cat without worrying about the GPF.
I bet you you could replace the whole B Pipe with one sans the GPF without any problem.
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#8024
Damn, those Euro-spec cars sound terrible! Some of you may like the muffled note. To me, it is just awful! Just close your eyes and hear the exhaust notes. Then, ask yourself, does it sound like the note of a fine sports car being driven spiritedly on the track, let alone Porsche's latest and greatest? To my ears, they sound like a Camry or Accord being hustled in anger. Did we wait all these years for these?? If the US-spec cars sound like these, I'll be out! I'll reserve my judgement until I hear US-spec cars. So far, it is not feeling good!!
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#8025
I don't think the GPF adds any complexity and it's a stand alone item.
If you look at the driveline pictures for the 718 GT4 they moved the secondary O2 sensors to the middle of the cat...that means that they are reading post cat without worrying about the GPF.
I bet you you could replace the whole B Pipe with one sans the GPF without any problem.
If you look at the driveline pictures for the 718 GT4 they moved the secondary O2 sensors to the middle of the cat...that means that they are reading post cat without worrying about the GPF.
I bet you you could replace the whole B Pipe with one sans the GPF without any problem.
ANyway I've been listening to multiple videos of the 718 gt4 just to get a feel for the sound. I decided it is not exciting enough. 981 sounds a lot more dramatic.
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