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Old 06-18-2019, 01:31 AM
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Wow...LMAO...years of commiserating on this thread and we get...another 981-ish GT4? I mean...it's not bad by any means. It's just the raw energy put into the...I think I'm reading this right...498 pages of posts...and this is what is released? Not saying Porsche was basing their car design around an internet thread...but...I mean...well...?

I kinda like the exhausts in the back. Other than that and the numbers...which are...well...sort of the same after a little math (HP+Weight+everything else is the same-ish)...more...???? Is "same-ish" a word?

I guess now more than ever in the past couple years I am REALLY happy to own a 981 GT4. I love Porsche and the machines they make. I post this mostly because of all the madness in this thread for so many years and it's basically the same car. Which is kinda hilarious taken into the context of this thread.
Old 06-18-2019, 01:40 AM
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Really like the front end. I bet the car would look super in Aventurine Green.
Old 06-18-2019, 02:08 AM
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981 GT4 - 287bhp/tonne. (385bhp/1340kg)
718 GT4 - 291bhp/tonne. (414bhp/1420kg)

Same torque.

Peak torque is available 250rpm earlier in the 981.
Old 06-18-2019, 02:22 AM
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I won't go through the 499 pages to find it, but I am a little happy that my predictions of cylinder deactivation (based on the "Autobahn queue"-sound clip maybe a year ago) turned out to be true
Old 06-18-2019, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SCCAForums

Just enjoy your 981’s and work on disputing how it’s not really 10 seconds slower around the ring.

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Dave
It"s called new tires.
And improvements to the track.
Duh.
Old 06-18-2019, 03:15 AM
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8000rpm …….same gearing…… what just so you can snooze through 2nd gear for that bit longer ?? come on this is nuts
Old 06-18-2019, 03:25 AM
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Porsche definitely learned from the demand and the aftermarket pricing of the first GT4, heh. That is a significant price bump... 17-18% in three years is no joke.

I'd been putting off certain track modifications for my car in anticipation of the details for the new GT4 to see whether it was worth a trade in... But while it would be nice to get certain technology updates, ~$35K for just ~30 more hp, and a 200 rpm higher redline is gonna be tough for me to justify. Not to mention weight gains of apparently nearly 10%? I don't doubt it's still a faster car, but... yeah, I think it's time to start modding.
Old 06-18-2019, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnauto
For over a year, we heard it would have the GT3 engine. Can't believe it does not. With weight gain and such it feels like an enhanced 718 GTS rather than GT car. Same here, no PDK no interest.
actually, if you followed the thread you would see that it was not ever going to be a GT3 engine. It was rumored to be a 4.0L however. Which it is.
GTS turbo vs. GT4 will never feel the same in engine and suspension department.

Stay tuned for PDK before production is over.
Old 06-18-2019, 03:30 AM
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I'll wait to see if they offer it up with a PDK option in late 2020 and then an aftermarket solution to the exhaust along with headers. Is the new engine was a 4.0L version of the 981 GT4 engine?
Old 06-18-2019, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Is the new engine was a 4.0L version of the 981 GT4 engine?
We assumed as such however Porsche kept saying "no".
Porsche claims the engine would be "new".

So as it stands, it is supposedly the 3.0L carrera motor with the turbos deleted and then stroked to 4.0L
So it is "kinda" new-ish.

I like the idea.
Lets see if it delivers or can be tuned.
Old 06-18-2019, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
More $, more weight, bigger battery for auto stop/start, new injectors for for reduced emissions, and cylinder deactivation. More hp but same torque and crap 0-60 means same transmission and gears. 981 FTW.
Yup.
Emissions control is a very big theme here.
And $13,000 more for 29 horsepower.
Same torque and same gearing

Yawn.
Old 06-18-2019, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Yup.
Emissions control is a very big theme here.
And $13,000 more for 29 horsepower.
Same torque and same gearing

Yawn.
Splitting hairs here, but isn't it over $14K more? Either my math is off, or maybe you're not including destination charge in the new price?

EDIT: Just looked it up. Looks like it was a $14,855 increase. ($85,595 -> $100,450, both prices including destination).

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Old 06-18-2019, 04:01 AM
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https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-cayman-gt4/
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-spyder/

PORSCHE USA WEB PAGES ARE OUT!!!

but where is the configurator...... and USA now allows club sport package?!
Old 06-18-2019, 04:19 AM
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Base price of my USA 981 GT4 was $84k meaning that is a 19% increase in price for the same Torque in the new, heavier car.

The 'Ring was re-paved in sections, that is now naturally faster for all cars which is why Porsche marketing machine quotes those figures - to wow and stun you.
Statistics do not lie, but....

Originally Posted by RocketGuy3
Splitting hairs here, but isn't it over $14K more? Either my math is off, or maybe you're not including destination charge in the new price?

EDIT: Just looked it up. Looks like it was a $14,855 increase. ($85,595 -> $100,450, both prices including destination).
Old 06-18-2019, 04:28 AM
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They just need to homologate the new engine. The gearbox is already homologated in the Cayman, Cayman S, and the GTS. So for racing they can now use this new engine. I expect it is also a simple swap to change this engine into the 718 race cars.


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