Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
#5071
Anyone know the best place to get info on the Touaregs?
A friend is looking for a new SUV, but not looking to spend Cayenne dollars. There are a couple in our area that, I presume, have had the fix applied if they're for sale. What's the rate off MSRP for these things or where can I find the latest on the VWs?
Thanks!
A friend is looking for a new SUV, but not looking to spend Cayenne dollars. There are a couple in our area that, I presume, have had the fix applied if they're for sale. What's the rate off MSRP for these things or where can I find the latest on the VWs?
Thanks!
I love my CD and love the Cayenne in general, I'm a Porsche die-hard, but at that price differential it's tough not to look at the platform-mates.
#5072
Addict
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What’s the typical dealer discount on the “new” CD being sold after the fix? I’m thinking of trading my CGTS on one, and my dealer rep offered me 12% off MSRP on one of these CD’s. That doesn’t sound like a very good deal. I would have thought 20%would be more like it.
#5073
Three Wheelin'
On a 2016 CD unpunched, 15% off MSRP is all day long. 20% off MSRP is decent deal. Anything over 20% is a steal.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
What’s the typical dealer discount on the “new” CD being sold after the fix? I’m thinking of trading my CGTS on one, and my dealer rep offered me 12% off MSRP on one of these CD’s. That doesn’t sound like a very good deal. I would have thought 20%would be more like it.
#5075
Burning Brakes
#5076
#5077
Three Wheelin'
Guys, please use the PORSCHE dealer search. Key in your zip code and it will itemize all PORSCHE dealers in your area. You have to do due diligence searching by calling them one by one, or check their inventory. They are out there. Good luck.
LINK:
https://www.porsche.com/usa/dealerse...ch-field=32003
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
LINK:
https://www.porsche.com/usa/dealerse...ch-field=32003
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
#5079
Intermediate
#5080
Quick Status Update... and Happy New Year by the way!
Filled up last Sunday (12/24), and then took a 300 mile round-trip to Maine with the girlfriend's family for Christmas. This week, about another 150 miles on the clock... So ~450 miles on this tank, and the thing has been running like a top. No stutters. Strong/Smoothest it's felt in a long time.
So 'what' might you ask, are the differences between this tank, and the last two with all the stuttering?
- Cold Weather... It hasn't been over 25°F . --- Remember, it seems to stutter between ~35-45°F
--and wait for it--
- I added 4oz (half dose) of Diesel Kleen winter formula to the tank. (Anti-gel, and cetane booster)
When the weather gets into 'the range' (35-45F) where it was previously stuttering regularly, I think that'll be the ultimate test. Test without the Diesel Kleen cetane booster, and how it performs. Then go to the gas station, add Diesel Kleen, and test again. If the Diesel Kleen cures the problem, I think we can safely say that the ECU isn't quite tuned correctly for the engine. (or there's something internally engine related to my Cayenne, that isn't within the operating parameters of the updated ECU tune).
Filled up last Sunday (12/24), and then took a 300 mile round-trip to Maine with the girlfriend's family for Christmas. This week, about another 150 miles on the clock... So ~450 miles on this tank, and the thing has been running like a top. No stutters. Strong/Smoothest it's felt in a long time.
So 'what' might you ask, are the differences between this tank, and the last two with all the stuttering?
- Cold Weather... It hasn't been over 25°F . --- Remember, it seems to stutter between ~35-45°F
--and wait for it--
- I added 4oz (half dose) of Diesel Kleen winter formula to the tank. (Anti-gel, and cetane booster)
When the weather gets into 'the range' (35-45F) where it was previously stuttering regularly, I think that'll be the ultimate test. Test without the Diesel Kleen cetane booster, and how it performs. Then go to the gas station, add Diesel Kleen, and test again. If the Diesel Kleen cures the problem, I think we can safely say that the ECU isn't quite tuned correctly for the engine. (or there's something internally engine related to my Cayenne, that isn't within the operating parameters of the updated ECU tune).
#5081
Glad to hear that at least for now, you are issue free! Given the preponderance of folks who seem to be without your particular issue, if it recurs I'd be more inclined to think it is vehicle specific as opposed to tune-specific; just a hunch though.
I haven't added Diesel Kleen in a while (it smells god-awful, and this is a good reminder to plug my nose and dose my tank) but I'm not sure if would have 'fixed' anything aside from maybe if you got some funky fuel when they filled your tank?
I haven't added Diesel Kleen in a while (it smells god-awful, and this is a good reminder to plug my nose and dose my tank) but I'm not sure if would have 'fixed' anything aside from maybe if you got some funky fuel when they filled your tank?
#5082
Rennlist Member
I’m a little late with this report back after the mod but hopefully it helps others. We purchased our 2014 Platinum Edition CD in May of 2016, we traded a 2014 non air suspension CD at a BMW dealer in Baton Rouge. Great overall experience btw. We purchased our first CD in June of 2015 after trading in our 2008 VW V8 Touareg with air suspension. Really missed the air ride so that is why we changed. Anyway, we had 65k miles on the CD when the mod was done on Dec 7th. The first and only thing we noticed (besides the wonderful detailing that the dealership did on our CD) was that the transmission didn’t upshift from 3rd to 4th gear “normally”. It waited until a higher rpm like 3k instead of sooner, like 2k like it originally did. And this just until it was warmed up! After that, it drove great and normal. I keep a written mpg log and I believe we are getting about 1 mpg lower in city driving but no change in highway fuel economy.
I called my service advisor and he confirmed that the software change “caused” the rpm warm up change. It also uses more adblue than before but not significant. The hardware change is a heat exchanger to heat the exhaust gas faster.
Would I buy a CD again? Absolutely!
Would I buy a CD again? Absolutely!
#5083
Been below zero lately. Was off work the last week so was doing home improvement projects, etc. and wound up leaving the CD outside most of the time (to keep from opening/closing/opening/closing my heated garage...)
No real change in my observations I've posted previously. Maybe (maybe?) a little bit more "diesel clatter" for the first mile or three but frankly could be just that I never deliberately listened for it before. Even then I had to pause, listen, and "oh yeah I guess maybe there is a little bit more clack-clack-clack"...
Also looked at a new unpunched 2016 Touareg TDI when I had the wife's GTI in for an oil change. Pretty well loaded, the "Lux" package (which seems pretty damned close to the "Premium Plus" on the Cayenne) - includes keyless entry and ignition, glass roof, tow hitch, cooled seats, nav, etc. Sales dude said they were "around" 15% off (I suspect pretty negotiable). Should be able to land one for right at, or just under, $50k. Only 3/36 warranty though.
I briefly thought about it but damn I just love the look and feel of the CD so much more. I couldn't do a Touareg TDI after owning a CD.
No real change in my observations I've posted previously. Maybe (maybe?) a little bit more "diesel clatter" for the first mile or three but frankly could be just that I never deliberately listened for it before. Even then I had to pause, listen, and "oh yeah I guess maybe there is a little bit more clack-clack-clack"...
Also looked at a new unpunched 2016 Touareg TDI when I had the wife's GTI in for an oil change. Pretty well loaded, the "Lux" package (which seems pretty damned close to the "Premium Plus" on the Cayenne) - includes keyless entry and ignition, glass roof, tow hitch, cooled seats, nav, etc. Sales dude said they were "around" 15% off (I suspect pretty negotiable). Should be able to land one for right at, or just under, $50k. Only 3/36 warranty though.
I briefly thought about it but damn I just love the look and feel of the CD so much more. I couldn't do a Touareg TDI after owning a CD.
#5084
RL Community Team
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Been below zero lately. Was off work the last week so was doing home improvement projects, etc. and wound up leaving the CD outside most of the time (to keep from opening/closing/opening/closing my heated garage...)
No real change in my observations I've posted previously. Maybe (maybe?) a little bit more "diesel clatter" for the first mile or three but frankly could be just that I never deliberately listened for it before. Even then I had to pause, listen, and "oh yeah I guess maybe there is a little bit more clack-clack-clack"...
Also looked at a new unpunched 2016 Touareg TDI when I had the wife's GTI in for an oil change. Pretty well loaded, the "Lux" package (which seems pretty damned close to the "Premium Plus" on the Cayenne) - includes keyless entry and ignition, glass roof, tow hitch, cooled seats, nav, etc. Sales dude said they were "around" 15% off (I suspect pretty negotiable). Should be able to land one for right at, or just under, $50k. Only 3/36 warranty though.
I briefly thought about it but damn I just love the look and feel of the CD so much more. I couldn't do a Touareg TDI after owning a CD.
No real change in my observations I've posted previously. Maybe (maybe?) a little bit more "diesel clatter" for the first mile or three but frankly could be just that I never deliberately listened for it before. Even then I had to pause, listen, and "oh yeah I guess maybe there is a little bit more clack-clack-clack"...
Also looked at a new unpunched 2016 Touareg TDI when I had the wife's GTI in for an oil change. Pretty well loaded, the "Lux" package (which seems pretty damned close to the "Premium Plus" on the Cayenne) - includes keyless entry and ignition, glass roof, tow hitch, cooled seats, nav, etc. Sales dude said they were "around" 15% off (I suspect pretty negotiable). Should be able to land one for right at, or just under, $50k. Only 3/36 warranty though.
I briefly thought about it but damn I just love the look and feel of the CD so much more. I couldn't do a Touareg TDI after owning a CD.