Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
02-28-2017 | 12:34 PM
#3211
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ENOUGH. when will this end . My wife and I are completely happy and satisfied with our dispel Cayennes. What is making me mad is the constant emails and regular mailings asking me to join this or that law suit . Porsche was proper and provided extended warranties and I appreciate that . Now I just want to be left alone to enjoy these great vehicles sorry I'm just old and don't feel I'm owed anything
02-28-2017 | 12:40 PM
#3212
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And I haven't been solicited by anyone. Yet.
02-28-2017 | 12:51 PM
#3213
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No solicitations here, either. I didn't see in the agreement the no additional fees that the judge mandated for the 2.0l settlement. It's probably in there; I just haven't looked for it.
We got 2 of the cards, though we only have one CD. Not sure you can read anything into the barcodes. Given there's only about 80,000 vehicles impacted by this settlement, adding in former owners, I can't imagine we'd rise to anywhere near 200,000 claims.
We got 2 of the cards, though we only have one CD. Not sure you can read anything into the barcodes. Given there's only about 80,000 vehicles impacted by this settlement, adding in former owners, I can't imagine we'd rise to anywhere near 200,000 claims.
02-28-2017 | 01:32 PM
#3215
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You need to do it by 05/31/2017.
02-28-2017 | 02:08 PM
#3216
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Is this the 'official' web site to register: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/3-0-models/
02-28-2017 | 02:58 PM
#3217
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I think it's a pretty clear agreement, actually, and pretty understandable, too. Though, the DOJ Consent Decree gets a bit technical.
Yes, it could take another year and a half or so to "end" it, because they still have to get 85% of us to sign on to the class and then get the repairs made. There are more fines if they miss these deadlines, too, though they all go to the government and not us.
And it basically tells VW, OK, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you can fix them and only make you pay a "little" amount if you can. But if you're lying again, its gonna hurt! A LOT.
Yes, it could take another year and a half or so to "end" it, because they still have to get 85% of us to sign on to the class and then get the repairs made. There are more fines if they miss these deadlines, too, though they all go to the government and not us.
And it basically tells VW, OK, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you can fix them and only make you pay a "little" amount if you can. But if you're lying again, its gonna hurt! A LOT.
This restitution argument IMHO has always come down to two main groups of vehicle owners - 1) those who want to be rid of their vehicles, and 2) those that want to keep their vehicles. Many, and from both groups, want some form of monetary compensation as well - we can debate how much, if it is fair or not etc. but if you intend to stay in the class, the terms and conditions are now known.
By the way, for those who have not seen it, at the end of the FTC STATEMENT SUPPORTING THE 3.0L “CLEAN DIESEL” CONSUMER SETTLEMENTS, there are a series of tables by class (Gen 1 and Gen 2.x) and by manufacture that outlines various restitution payments to eligible owners. It gives ranges so anyone person's actual value may differ, but I thought it was a good first order approximation.
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02-28-2017 | 03:07 PM
#3218
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BenCD - Thanks,
Is this the 'official' web site to register: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/3-0-models/
Is this the 'official' web site to register: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/3-0-models/
02-28-2017 | 03:08 PM
#3219
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BenCD - Thanks,
Is this the 'official' web site to register: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/3-0-models/
Is this the 'official' web site to register: https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/3-0-models/
Also got my postcard too.
02-28-2017 | 09:33 PM
#3223
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I agree, the whole set [of agreements] is well written - I judge that criteria by how many times I have to re-read them to get the point. So far only twice ...
This restitution argument IMHO has always come down to two main groups of vehicle owners - 1) those who want to be rid of their vehicles, and 2) those that want to keep their vehicles. Many, and from both groups, want some form of monetary compensation as well - we can debate how much, if it is fair or not etc. but if you intend to stay in the class, the terms and conditions are now known.
By the way, for those who have not seen it, at the end of the FTC 2nd Partial Consent Decree, there are a series of tables by class (Gen 1 and Gen 2.x) and by manufacture that outlines various restitution payments to eligible owners. It gives ranges so anyone person's actual value may differ, but I thought it was a good first order approximation.
This restitution argument IMHO has always come down to two main groups of vehicle owners - 1) those who want to be rid of their vehicles, and 2) those that want to keep their vehicles. Many, and from both groups, want some form of monetary compensation as well - we can debate how much, if it is fair or not etc. but if you intend to stay in the class, the terms and conditions are now known.
By the way, for those who have not seen it, at the end of the FTC 2nd Partial Consent Decree, there are a series of tables by class (Gen 1 and Gen 2.x) and by manufacture that outlines various restitution payments to eligible owners. It gives ranges so anyone person's actual value may differ, but I thought it was a good first order approximation.
For the record, the ranges are actually in the Statement Supporting 3.0L Settlement, not the Consent Decree. Good find, though. Pretty straight forward.
Note: Values listed for Repair Payment DO include the Bosch payment, too.
02-28-2017 | 09:44 PM
#3224
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Actually - the LEASE COMPANY was the first owner of the vehicle (every lease I've had - the leasing company owned the vehicle. I registered it and insured it - but they own it) - in that case - is the leasing company entitled to the payout for the "first owner"?
No horse in the race - but I enjoy following the twists and turns of dieselgate..
02-28-2017 | 10:16 PM
#3225
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This brought a question to my mind..
Actually - the LEASE COMPANY was the first owner of the vehicle (every lease I've had - the leasing company owned the vehicle. I registered it and insured it - but they own it) - in that case - is the leasing company entitled to the payout for the "first owner"?
No horse in the race - but I enjoy following the twists and turns of dieselgate..
Actually - the LEASE COMPANY was the first owner of the vehicle (every lease I've had - the leasing company owned the vehicle. I registered it and insured it - but they own it) - in that case - is the leasing company entitled to the payout for the "first owner"?
No horse in the race - but I enjoy following the twists and turns of dieselgate..