Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
10-15-2016, 12:25 AM
#1742
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From the transcript, I read that the October deadline was to submit to the court ahead of the 4 November hearing, to give the court time to review the submission.
10-15-2016, 12:42 PM
#1743
Rennlist Member
So, guys, make them work for you.
10-15-2016, 12:58 PM
#1744
Instructor
Searcher, I think that you're 100% correct. And frankly I've moved on...just need to get rid of the Jetta TDI as the parking spot in Chicago is worth more than the car.
I was on 9hr flight today and had plenty of time to search for useless items and came across this very recent article that describes my trade-in vs. buy back and the tax predicament.
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/...el-9966057.php
I was on 9hr flight today and had plenty of time to search for useless items and came across this very recent article that describes my trade-in vs. buy back and the tax predicament.
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/...el-9966057.php
Well, there's another wrinkle - tax implications. Just another thing to balance in evaluating whatever presents itself in the future.
10-15-2016, 01:10 PM
#1745
Instructor
This article seems pretty accurate.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...w/54866433.cms
$175 million to lawyers, much less than they expected.
From the article, a quick summary -
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...w/54866433.cms
$175 million to lawyers, much less than they expected.
From the article, a quick summary -
"VW has agreed to spend up to $10.033 billion to buy back the vehicles and compensate owners. It may also offer vehicle fixes if regulators approve. Under a timetable announced this summer, regulators could approve a fix for some 2015 VW diesel vehicles as early as next month."
In addition - I haven't verified:"In addition, VW has agreed to pay up to $1.21 billion to compensate US VW brand dealers, pay more than $600 million to 44 US states, spend $2 billion on zero-emission vehicle promotion and infrastructure, and another $2.7 billion to offset diesel pollution."
10-15-2016, 04:18 PM
#1746
Instructor
And now, from the Paris Auto Show,
The EU is rewriting regs to address emissions of vehicles while operating on the road.
Unintended consequence - manufacturers are reverting to larger engines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKBN12E11K
Diesels still have the advantage over gasoline engines when it comes to CO2 emissions. But working little turbos hard is causing excess emissions in real life. Of course, most of us already know that.
From the article:
The EU is rewriting regs to address emissions of vehicles while operating on the road.
Unintended consequence - manufacturers are reverting to larger engines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKBN12E11K
Diesels still have the advantage over gasoline engines when it comes to CO2 emissions. But working little turbos hard is causing excess emissions in real life. Of course, most of us already know that.
From the article:
"They might be doing OK in the current European test cycle, but in the real world they are not performing," said Pavan Potluri, an analyst with influential forecaster IHS Automotive."
10-16-2016, 12:49 AM
#1747
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And now, from the Paris Auto Show,
The EU is rewriting regs to address emissions of vehicles while operating on the road.
Unintended consequence - manufacturers are reverting to larger engines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKBN12E11K
Diesels still have the advantage over gasoline engines when it comes to CO2 emissions. But working little turbos hard is causing excess emissions in real life. Of course, most of us already know that.
From the article:
The EU is rewriting regs to address emissions of vehicles while operating on the road.
Unintended consequence - manufacturers are reverting to larger engines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKBN12E11K
Diesels still have the advantage over gasoline engines when it comes to CO2 emissions. But working little turbos hard is causing excess emissions in real life. Of course, most of us already know that.
From the article:
"They might be doing OK in the current European test cycle, but in the real world they are not performing," said Pavan Potluri, an analyst with influential forecaster IHS Automotive."
So now the bar is reset and us 3.0 owners are in ****ty limbo. Between this and the election, early November is going to be interesting!
10-18-2016, 09:40 PM
#1748
Banned
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ment/92353414/
Separately, VW's Giuffra told Breyer that he's hoping to have positive news to report at a Nov. 3 hearing regarding the status of settlement talks over 3-liter diesel vehicles that also cheated emissions standards but are not included in this settlement.
"There must be a resolution," Breyer said, adding that 3-liter diesel owners have been "aggrieved" and "their claims are no less important."
Separately, VW's Giuffra told Breyer that he's hoping to have positive news to report at a Nov. 3 hearing regarding the status of settlement talks over 3-liter diesel vehicles that also cheated emissions standards but are not included in this settlement.
"There must be a resolution," Breyer said, adding that 3-liter diesel owners have been "aggrieved" and "their claims are no less important."
10-19-2016, 12:01 PM
#1749
Instructor
THE USA reporter, Nathan Borney, has been off target during most of his coverage.
Here's a less biased report, omitting the "smog belching diesels" moniker that USA Today likes to use.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...nt-with-owners
Only a perfunctory three hour hearing, which was a disappointment. If you watch video snippets, Judge Breyer is clearly enjoying his new-found notoriety.
Even after the October 25th written decision, nobody is any closer to closure.
I hope the decision includes a determination of the options if no "fix" is approved by EPA/CARB, which is looking likely.
Specifically - if there is no approved fix, will owners be FORCED into selling back, or can they continue to enjoy their cars as they are now? (That would be State-specific unless the Feds jump in here, too.)
Here's a less biased report, omitting the "smog belching diesels" moniker that USA Today likes to use.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...nt-with-owners
Only a perfunctory three hour hearing, which was a disappointment. If you watch video snippets, Judge Breyer is clearly enjoying his new-found notoriety.
Even after the October 25th written decision, nobody is any closer to closure.
I hope the decision includes a determination of the options if no "fix" is approved by EPA/CARB, which is looking likely.
Specifically - if there is no approved fix, will owners be FORCED into selling back, or can they continue to enjoy their cars as they are now? (That would be State-specific unless the Feds jump in here, too.)
10-19-2016, 12:49 PM
#1750
Racer
Asking that question about the 3.0s of anyone here would be akin to asking this person.
10-19-2016, 02:13 PM
#1751
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ment/92353414/
Separately, VW's Giuffra told Breyer that he's hoping to have positive news to report at a Nov. 3 hearing regarding the status of settlement talks over 3-liter diesel vehicles that also cheated emissions standards but are not included in this settlement.
"There must be a resolution," Breyer said, adding that 3-liter diesel owners have been "aggrieved" and "their claims are no less important."
Separately, VW's Giuffra told Breyer that he's hoping to have positive news to report at a Nov. 3 hearing regarding the status of settlement talks over 3-liter diesel vehicles that also cheated emissions standards but are not included in this settlement.
"There must be a resolution," Breyer said, adding that 3-liter diesel owners have been "aggrieved" and "their claims are no less important."
Please disregard the mindless babbling coming from corporate shrills. They are just nervous and can't hide their pavlovian reflexes.
Last edited by Dr Cayenne; 10-19-2016 at 02:31 PM.
10-19-2016, 05:40 PM
#1752
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Who here is a corporate shill?
10-19-2016, 05:40 PM
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10-19-2016, 05:48 PM
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