GlenGT3

$10k, all else being equal. If the car is a hyper low mileage collector grade car, the PCCBs would be worth even more.

Burren

Such talk is blasphemy!

STALKER99

They didn’t come from the factory that way…lol.

Bxstr

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lamacan

probably $4,000-$5,000 less. i don't think it's a deal breaker for most people and at this mileage/age may start to be a negative.

lamacan

i think that's an ambitious premium.

GlenGT3

These cars are now selling over MSRP. The PCCB is probably the single most desirable option. Why would you think it would be discounted over it's initial cost? The lower the mileage, the smaller the likelihood the car will be tracked, the greater the premium for PCCB and other desirable options.

8Lug

New record listing price for a 997.1 GT3.
$206k
6k miles
Guards Red with $113k MSRP

WP0AC29937S792944

https://www.porschefremont.com/inven...ac29937s792944

Previously sold by Switchcars
https://www.switchcars.com/cars-for-...rsche-911-2007

ranger22

Not sure everyone would agree with two of your assumptions. PCCBs may be important to you, but they are a turnoff for many. Also, lower mileage doesn't mean anything for certain. It could have been a track only sled where every single mile was logged on track. You really have to judge every car by its condition and known history. Everything else is just guessing.

GlenGT3

I am sure not everyone will agree. However please note the original question was "all else being equal", and I stated that low mileage cars are less likely to be tracked (in the future, by current buyers looking for low mileage cars), not that low mileage cars are less likely to have been tracked in the past. And of course, some buyers, primarily those who track, will be less interested in PCCBs just like they will be less interested in ultra low mileage. However, that doesn't change the fact that most buyers would prefer PCCBs and would pay a premium for it.

lamacan

agree to disagree. i think most buyers either don't have a preference, or demand steels, and fewer demand PCCB. as you approach cars of this age and mileage, PCCB are a quickly approaching $15,000 maintenance item. and if you want things to be full OEM factory as a collector, you won't want to do a steel conversion. personally i wanted PCCB and am okay with the cost to replace them in a factory way, but i know i am in the minority.

RAudi Driver

I would easily pay an additional 10k for PCCB's if they were in excellent condition.

GlenGT3

That's just simply not factual. Most buyers prefer PCCBs (all else things being equal). Just ask anyone who has more than one data point. Dealers pay more for cars with PCCBs and sell them for more. I think even Doug from Switchcars referred to the "big three" options somewhere in this thread as PCCB, full leather, and FAL and he probably has more experience than anyone else buying and selling 997 GT3s. There are people who want none of those options, but on the flip side, there are many more who do and keep premiums up for cars that have them.
Lastly, I don't think people who don't track view PCCBs as a maintenance item. Just the opposite, it's a lifetime rotor for 99% of them. I don't know of a single instance of someone having to replace PCCB rotors from street use. I'll leave it at that so as not to turn this into a PCCB conversation in a "for sale" thread.

Wonderdan

Porsche steel brakes are great.

I have my PCCB on the shelf and its fine but its slightly annoying to wipe down my calipers and not as predictable of a threshold brake. If I was using this as a daily I would pay more for PCCB...but its mainly cause 1) I'm lazy 2) Rusty rotors arn't pretty 3) I like yellow. The decrease in rotational mass as it relates to torque... I dunno maybe I can tell but its more likely in my head.

bweSteve

I'll chime in & give some of my own local anecdotal evidence on PCCB's .... I've been in PCA for 25 yrs and at ~25 events per year attended, that's probably over 600 events in total. Granted I have only owned PCCB's on a GT3 for these past 4 years,... I can honestly say that nearly 100% of the people who speak to me (& btw, most are NOT Rennlisters), will say that PCCB is one thing they would LOVE to have. These are street only, low-key Porsche owners who use their cars casually & socially. They are not collectors, nor do they track. That demographic would clearly pay up. Whether they would "demand" PCCB's is another story. If they found a non-PCCB car with most all their desired spec options, I would guess they would let go of that demand. Most of those people would not care how expensive it would be if they had to replace a rotor due to a random rock chip (at least it would not factor in at purchase time).

my .02, is that we (Rennlisters) are such a small portion of the overall buying public.