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Old 07-27-2021, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Laguna_Dude
i agree. how is a slower car with sofas and ugly green bits worth more or same vs. say a comparable 7.2 RS with buckets and more performance, even with same miles. any other color 7.1 RS at lest 80k less vs. green right now. during the 997 time, i had a green one and could not sell it to save my life; had to give it away for $110k in 2010. lololol. 10 years laters and apparently they are unicorns lolol.
Two words... PPP loan, everything looks like a unicorn

I mean there were 2000 views on the LWBS in the marketplace within 48 hours priced at $30,000... I'm not sure we are all thinking clearly
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Old 07-27-2021, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Akarp0170
How is a 997.2 GT3RS worth less than a 997.1 GT3RS in green? I mean yes color is rare but updates are far exceeding the color choice to me. I think the 997.2 GT cars should be worth more than the 997.1 GT in my book and at the moment for $260k - $300k I would get a 997.2. What am I missing?
Given two identically specced cars, the 997.2 still brings a premium to the 997.1. But once cars turn about 10 years or a few generations old they are so technologically outdated that people value them more on rarity, uniqueness and driving feel than on absolute performance. The performance gap between the 997.1 and .2 is almost non-existent when compared to the performance gap of both 997 generations to the 992 GT3. This is why things like color, options, condition and history start to matter more than any marginal performance differences.
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Old 07-27-2021, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Akarp0170
How is a 997.2 GT3RS worth less than a 997.1 GT3RS in green? I mean yes color is rare but updates are far exceeding the color choice to me. I think the 997.2 GT cars should be worth more than the 997.1 GT in my book and at the moment for $260k - $300k I would get a 997.2. What am I missing?
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When I bought my .2 I could have bought a .1 in green for the same price. I'd still take a .2 every time! The .1 is just lacking a few extra special features IMO (at least in US spec...).
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Old 07-27-2021, 04:23 PM
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The gap is substantial between .1 and .2, plenty of threads that discuss the differences. Having owned .1RS and 2x .2RS at the same time, the .1RS was the first to go. A new platform will always excel over a .1 to .2 gen, 996 to 997, 997 to 991, and 991 to 992, new one will excel in performance over everything previous.

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Given two identically specced cars, the 997.2 still brings a premium to the 997.1. But once cars turn about 10 years or a few generations old they are so technologically outdated that people value them more on rarity, uniqueness and driving feel than on absolute performance. The performance gap between the 997.1 and .2 is almost non-existent when compared to the performance gap of both 997 generations to the 992 GT3. This is why things like color, options, condition and history start to matter more than any marginal performance differences.
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Old 07-27-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FLT6SPD
The gap is substantial between .1 and .2, plenty of threads that discuss the differences. Having owned .1RS and 2x .2RS at the same time, the .1RS was the first to go. A new platform will always excel over a .1 to .2 gen, 996 to 997, 997 to 991, and 991 to 992, new one will excel in performance over everything previous.
I'm not disputing any of that. I stated that given similar spec, the .2 will bring a premium. My post was in response to why a Green .1 RS sells for more than many .2RS and my point was that people buying 10 year old collector cars care more about uniqueness than they do about the performance differences among variations of old models. Sure, the guy looking for a driver or track car will put more emphasis on performance than on color. But these are not the people willing to spend 300k for a low mileage unicorn (i.e. the Green RS being discussed) so they are not setting the high water mark sales.
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Old 07-27-2021, 05:14 PM
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I think we can all agree these cars are the cream of the crop though! Regardless of .1 vs .2 or rs vs non rs. But yeah it is pretty crazy how some of these specs just command ridiculous premiums. and the fact green isnt even the rarest .1 RS color! Silver holds that title I believe.
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Old 07-27-2021, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by zshecht7792
I think we can all agree these cars are the cream of the crop though! Regardless of .1 vs .2 or rs vs non rs.
No argument there. 997 GT3 of all variations is the peak car from Porsche in my book.
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Old 07-27-2021, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
I'm not disputing any of that. I stated that given similar spec, the .2 will bring a premium. My post was in response to why a Green .1 RS sells for more than many .2RS and my point was that people buying 10 year old collector cars care more about uniqueness than they do about the performance differences among variations of old models. Sure, the guy looking for a driver or track car will put more emphasis on performance than on color. But these are not the people willing to spend 300k for a low mileage unicorn (i.e. the Green RS being discussed) so they are not setting the high water mark sales.
Understand -- if you are looking for that unique green color (without the cheesy green vents?) than maybe there is premium over the non PTS version of 997.1 but when comparing to 997.2 RS similar specs and mileage I prefer the 997.2 for a long list of reasons... For a 997.1, I think I prefer a clean low mileage 997.1 GT3 vs. a 997.1 RS because the gap there is not that substantial and certainly not worth $100K difference. For god sake, just wrap it.
Old 07-27-2021, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
I'm not disputing any of that. I stated that given similar spec, the .2 will bring a premium. My post was in response to why a Green .1 RS sells for more than many .2RS and my point was that people buying 10 year old collector cars care more about uniqueness than they do about the performance differences among variations of old models. Sure, the guy looking for a driver or track car will put more emphasis on performance than on color. But these are not the people willing to spend 300k for a low mileage unicorn (i.e. the Green RS being discussed) so they are not setting the high water mark sales.
not all spenders are purely collector/bubble wrap types. I recently paid $300k for my 7.2 RS and i care a lot about driving performance vs. just uniqueness; that is why i bought it. but i also wanted a perfect low-mile example vs a worn out driver car. i felt the price was worth it for a real driver's 911 vs. the newer gens which, while fast, are not rewarding to drive. now, i would probably pay $300k for a low-mile, bone stock green 7.1 RS if it PCCBs, club sport bucket seats, club sport cage and alcantara steering wheel and no green bits inside. to me that would be worth it. but a green RS with sofas, out-of-place leather wheel, green bits, etc. maybe $250k; knowing I would need to replace the green bits, add the buckets and cage, etc. and even with that, to me the 3.8 and 4.0 997.2 RS are the kings and last of their kind. 997.1, while amazing, was just a step in the evolution that spawned the better 7.2 RS.
Old 07-27-2021, 07:25 PM
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I’m gonna be selling my 2011 3RS in the next month. If anyone is interested before I send her let me know. Would rather have her go to someone here vs random dude
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Originally Posted by XrussianX
I’m gonna be selling my 2011 3RS in the next month. If anyone is interested before I send her let me know. Would rather have her go to someone here vs random dude
I am. I'll send you a PM
Old 07-27-2021, 07:40 PM
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I am. I'll send you a PM

I think you’re “that” random dude…..
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Originally Posted by Sword_of_the_Spirit
I think you’re “that” random dude…..
Not entirely sure what that insinuates...but doesn't come across overly friendly.... Also not sure what I did to offend you, but sorry if I did! Yeah, I'm rather new on the boards here. I've been an Audi/NSX guy for a long time, and finally hoping to make the jump over to a manual GT3/GT3 RS.

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Old 07-27-2021, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Laguna_Dude
not all spenders are purely collector/bubble wrap types. .
certainly not all. Just most.
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pearcecs
Not entirely sure what that insinuates...but doesn't come across overly friendly.... Also not sure what I did to offend you, but sorry if I did! Yeah, I'm rather new on the boards here. I've been an Audi/NSX guy for a long time, and finally hoping to make the jump over to a manual GT3/GT3 RS.
Welcome! And good luck with your search! the chase is fun! but driving her will be even better!


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