Bxstr

I'm hoping people can see past the wheels. But I do think some will be held back by them. Find a set of stock wheels for $3k, sell the HRE's. Get more for your car and for the wheels, separately.

Elliotw44

I agree wheels is the easiest thing to change on car. I wonder what the market is for a 997.1 GT3 with the 3.9 build? 997.1s are trading around 100. I am wondering if the 3.9 will push it into 110s? Its already bid up to 85. If it stays closer to the 100 mark maybe that's sign that collectiblility is the most important aspect of the 977 GT3 market? I know doug says 1 car doesn't make the market but just some interesting thoughts. In my mind the 3.9 adds a ton of value to the car. As someone who would drive.

Last 997.1 3.9 went for 102 for reference.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-27/

cgfen

Did you read his comment regarding why he needed to replace the wheels?
Big off @ WSIR, slid hard / fast enough that broke the beads on all 4 tyres.

refreshingly honest IMO.

zshecht7792

Wow I did not expect the bid to go up to 85K so fast. Looks like somebody on here made that high bid...

Bxstr

I have no clue on pricing, it's hard to price these one off cars (or very small number of SW 3.9's). Like you said, we have the last data point of $102 in August 2020, but market has even went up since then. I feel like if the right people are in the room, it could go for an insane number, but also could go very low if the right people aren't in the room.

I hope that collectibility isn't the most important aspect, but it may be. My take is condition should be the most important aspect. With condition, I think comes originality in many cases, or if there are modifications, that they're OEM+. Sharkwerks exhaust for instance. Some may want a fully stock engine car. But I think most would look at a center muffler bypass, bucket seats (even if it didn't originally come with them) as welcomed upgrades.

My bad Craig. I have yet to read through the ad just saw the first pic, only was commenting on the possibility of wheels lowering the price.

Always great when a seller discloses all information. I give them a lot of credit for doing so.

RAudi Driver

And that was before the madness started.

Robocop305

$115k should be a good number for these. These are bullet proof builds. Maybe, some day I will have this SW kit in mine. Yup

JMC376

It's an interesting comparison point -- that one had a few extras like PCCBs and a cage that this does not... while this one has the Guard LSD and some suspension bits. Close to the same miles on both car and engine build at time of auction. Maybe that all washes out, and this will be a good read on how things have changed in the past 6 months.

RAudi Driver

I also think that a white car would pull a little more than a silver. Not that it's a better color, it's just that more peeps seem to like either the skittle colors or a nice white.

6DJ8

2010 GT3, black, 17.1 kmi, $119,999

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-PORSCH...QAAOSwyWhehJmf

WP0AC2A92AS783378

Some interior pics are shown in this listing:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?&entitySelectingHelper.sele ctedEntity=c7735#listing=296611744

Was for sale last October, see post 5234, quoted mileage hasn’t changed since then

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...hread-349.html

Steve2k1116

the car looks awesome and if i was in the market the wheels wouldnt stop me. but the wheels make the car or they break the car and id bet that those wheels hurt the price if not just slightly. or maybe the market is so strong no one cares? well see!

dave292

Igooz is one of my new friends. Great guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAudi Driver

I think it's going to hurt the price a wee bit as a set of stockers aren't cheap. Nice car nonetheless

texass4

Yes, that was the car I was referring to. Honesty didn't want to post it at first as I was very seriously considering a purchase. I didn't realize it had paint work, and apologies for misusing the "Pumpkin" term. I'm only recently educating myself on the .1 RS variants, so I thought orange/black, regardless of which was dominant, was called a Pumpkin.

However...pumpkin or no pumpkin it's still essentially the same as the one I was referring to that just sold on BaT for (fees included) $199K. True, it had slightly lower miles but not materially so (8K vs 10K). I used it as an example of my overall confusion and bewilderment at some of the prices cars are bringing on BaT - Porsche and otherwise. Over the past year or so, I've seen many cars that have sold for what seems to be completely bonkers prices. Some are deserving, but others just leave me confused. Like this RS I mentioned: If an interested party decided they were exclusively looking for a low mile .1 RS and did the normal car search diligence, it would seem that they're out there and can likely be had for slightly less than BaT.

I really wonder if what we're seeing is the proliferation of brand-new car collectors/enthusiasts who've never really been interested in following the car market the way many of us here have for years. Now suddenly, there's this central clearinghouse where you can find any dream car imaginable, whether it's that 5 year old Ferrari that you talked your wife into letting you buy for your 60th birthday after time-served in the minivan hauling kids around or looking for the replacement Mustang like the one you sold after college when you had to grow up. For those people, it's no longer inconvenient to search multiple ways to find something to buy and that convenience boosts demand/competition. The "amazon prime" effect for collector car buying. Click, click, SOLD! Hell, BaT is even offering to handle shipping logistics now! You literally don't even need to get off the couch to have the car of your dreams show up in your driveway.

Thoughts?

switchcars

It goes both ways. Just like the physical auctions - Barrett-Jackson et al - we only talk about, and they only publicize, the trend-setting sales. There are plenty more that are RNM or that sell at the lower end of the market. For years, BaT struggled to bring top dollar for Porsche GT cars, with a couple of exceptions, and people were better suited to sell their GT cars elsewhere, while during the same period BaT was realizing record prices for other niche markets. It ebbs and flows, and as the market is skyrocketing on these cars, BaT has the most visible public data points for these cars. There are always two markets though, the auction and the non-auction market, and while the former greatly impacts the latter, it does not define it.

My wife and I searched for an E350 wagon for a year before landing on the right one. I watched every one go through BaT and laughed/cried at the results. We bought one private party for about 20% less, and I passed on one at $26k that was snapped up by a dealer and listed the next week on BaT - sold for $35k. Arbitrage baby!