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I'd probably take a pumpkin with a regear, a 4.0 or 4.1 build and some suspension work and save myself $700k or so. Would be much harder to replicate the DLS experience I'd think.
Ok way to do the math... I was more making an anecdote . The handful of friends I have that could justify a $1m< car they just stare at can also afford a $5m car to just stare at.
For the price of a Singer (about $1-3 million nowadays) there are so many cars I would rather have from Porsche or other manufacturers.
The Singer DLS starts at $1.8 million and goes up from there. Regardless of p[rice, the statement posed was, "I'd take this 4.0 over a Singer Anytime. I was just replying with a, "Would ya really". Price set aside, would anyone really take that 4.0 over a Singer DLS?
Originally Posted by ThePhanatic
Agreed. And honestly if I was looking for a "Singer-level" vehicle I would rather have a RUF, which is entirely bespoke and a carbon tub.
I think the singer is also considered a fully bespoke car but both the Singer DLS and a the RUF CTR would be my choice before a stock 4.0.
Last edited by RAudi Driver; 02-23-2024 at 01:18 PM.
The Singer started as a long hood, then on to the coil over era in the 964. He (Rob) stopped doing the "Classic" air cooled in 2022. I saw the Turbo Rob did in England at The Goodwood Festival in 2022. The car is jaw dropping. Wether that"s considered a bespoke car, I'm not sure, but the Turbo he has created is other worldly. This is the next iteration of the Singer going forward. I was with Rob the weekend he imagined the Singer concept 18 years ago. It was a wild dream that he actually brought to life. Incredible.
Last edited by christallon; 02-23-2024 at 01:45 PM.
Singers and 4.0 RS cars help us realize the amazing value in the 997.1/997.2 RS cars at today’s prices. The best of the best at a “bargain price”, comparatively. And built 100 percent by Porsche.
Im not certain that 3.9 and 4.1 builds will be “more desirable” than stock motors in the future. Time will tell.
I've done five transactions with Doug over the last several years (four involving GT cars) and am hoping to do a sixth very soon. Fair, honest, and no bull***t games. Highly recommended.
Thats the think I like about reputation, you can't buy one. Good one, or bad one, they don't sell them on aisle 24 at WalMart...(try aisle 25 lol)
Singers and 4.0 RS cars help us realize the amazing value in the 997.1/997.2 RS cars at today’s prices. The best of the best at a “bargain price”, comparatively. And built 100 percent by Porsche.
Im not certain that 3.9 and 4.1 builds will be “more desirable” than stock motors in the future. Time will tell.
Me thinks that 20 years from now cars will continue to break performance records... so looking back at these I think personal perception will probably want to experience them for what they 'were' and not what they 'could be', so the OE 4.0's will be peak collectors with 3.8's following just behind for us less fortunate
No doubt that stock cars will likely be more valuable down the road but I’m not after investment returns nor saving my car for the next guy. That’s what the stock market is for.
It’s unlikely many of us will take any significant loss on these cars down the road, engine mods or not (though the cost of the mods themselves may be a sunk cost), and for that we should feel very fortunate.
Drivers mileage white .1 listed for what appears to be a solid price. No pics of the car but it has a high msrp with full leather and pccbs. Depending on condition could be a great pickup for someone looking for a driver.
this checks all boxes, but price seems high relative to mileage.
this checks all boxes, but price seems high relative to mileage.
Seems about in line to me. Here’s a 74k mile example that sold for a nearly identical price after factoring in buyer’s premium, and it’s not as nice of a spec:
02-23-2024, 11:08 AM
. The handful of friends I have that could justify a $1m< car they just stare at can also afford a $5m car to just stare at.
