RAudi Driver

Especially this one.

Upscale Audio

Yikes. Looks like they spent nearly $8k on maintenance. This is what it gets you:

"During the inspection process we replaced all 4 tires, installed new tire pressure sensors, performed a 4 wheel alignment, replaced front brake pads and rotors, and performed a major service including oil and filter change, new engine air filter, new pollen filter, new engine accessory serpentine drive belt, and new spark plugs were installed at the same time. All together we performed nearly $8,000 in services to the GT3 so the next owner doesn't have to."

Nice that they did all that service, that's for sure. But $8k?

RAudi Driver

I agree and when someone claims to have lifts yet doesn't include any undercarriage shots in his auction, well........Please keep in mind we also wouldn’t represent a car needing work – we would do it – we have 9 lifts all alwyas being used – with about 35 inventory cars waiting in line for service!

I take issue with that silver RS auction and not disclosing that the bumper was repainted. 6 questions regarding the front bumper. Before any reply to the audience, a complaint to Bat to get a comment removed then a comment that it's all original paint and that it's the lighting, color of the car and/or PPF that's making it look that way. No mention that it even could have been painted at this point. Then paint meter readings with another comment on the last reading picture that the paint is all original. Another 3 replies posts and Ryan chimes in once again that the paint is all original. Everyone wants to know about the front bumper. Claiming original paint when the subject is the front bumper isn't being transparent. That's a deflection and avoidance of a direct straight answer that his audience is looking for. I wouldn't care if the bumpers are painted. I would care if the person selling me a car couldn't come to terms and say, "Hey, the bumper was painted or it may have been painted". With RFM stating that he's sold 2,000 cars, he should be able to tell if the bumper has been painted. Come on! Then the bumper hoopla died down and the seller seems to have dodged having to answer that question, of which there was never a definitive answer from the seller.

With these types of comments, what is one supposed to think? I know what I would think. Original paint everywhere!

For a 29k mile example she looks great! For original paint and driven 29k miles as you see on on the hood and nose it looks well kept and not damaged with chips or marks other than the ones pictured on the lower bumper.

All original paint. Super clean car for the age and miles. Good luck to all bidding!

I remember when I was looking at an RS at Switch. The description stated: All original paint, except front bumper, which was repainted to address chips. That's the way to do it!

I don't know RFM but I do know car dealers and car salesmen. I know that when things are left vague, they are for a reason. It gives the seller wiggle room and that needs to be removed from a 6 figure purchase. Why can't you just look at the date codes and give a definitive answer. "The tires are from 2017. They are now 7 years old and will be replaced with the wining bidders rubber of choice."

I had to search hard for a date code on those tires. Funny how it wasn't disclosed and what exactly constitutes a few years.

Another note on tires – every car we sell if tires are older than a few years a new set is placed on, if they weren’t changed yet- they would be prior to leaving!

It's no wonder that this auction didn't close.

650, nice that you defend your friend, but no need to keep doing it. He's an adult and can come on this forum to defend himself if he feels like it's needed.

RAudi Driver

Those rear wheels look so sucked in. I wonder if they are even 305's and if they are then the rears are missing the 5mm spacers.

Wonderdan

Well he did say that original paint didn’t apply to the bumpers unless it has less than 5k miles or something. So by his logic I think he didn’t have to answer anything about the bumpers, pretty sure in his mind its a wear part

So if I follow that logic, it doesn’t count when my cars previous owner hit a very large bird broke the front splitter clip, scratched it and caused a repaint… technically I only believe the story cause the clip is still broken and I have a pic of the torn ppf with blood on it haha… carfax now says “light damage” front, I’m actually surprised he used insurance for something like that because then he could do what Ryan F is doing and call it a wear part and cop out that there is no way to tell.

Bxstr

2010 RS. 59k miles. $249,997. WP0AC2A99AS783684

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38671217899...Bk9SR4rZ3MKpYw

Previous info here: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post18344223

8Lug

touche

widers911

Heard 385

othertbone

997 was the best performing GT3 in the past 12 months

bweSteve

He suggested that there were such small data sets for 2023, that conclusions based on his numbers could be skewed (even 1 or 2 cars sold can completely change the results). To me it almost seemed not worth using.

He also said (at 3min 40sec) that Gen 2 supply is so low that he won't even cover them (or make any trend conclusions).

Wonderdan

I also want to make a gross generalization that anyone willing to buy a 15 year old car at these prices isn’t as influenced by macro economics because they aren’t just “buying because they can” like many 992 owners. Nearly every 997 owner I know has contemplated it to exhaustion, now there is prob just a backlog of people waiting for the slightest show of weakness to buy… which is tough with the dealers circling this forum “waving to the creepy dealers reading this as I write it”.

AplusTintPPF

it’s for sale for $173k

https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...11-gt3-c-1874/

JS

There is so much history and stories behind 1973 RS cars. People still pay 7 figures for them.
These cars were all meant to be driven and enjoyed, things happen.
No one will care about paintwork and DME reports on these cars at some point.

pputkowski

Wonder how he got started…

RapidGT

The reason a lot of people like having original paint as it just proves a car hasn’t been damaged before. Most don’t go out looking for original paint early 911’s or 356’s as there are so few left in existance. You’d be lucky to find one with original paint on some panels. On these a lot look for numbers matching engine, transmission, panels, date manufacturing codes, good compression and/or leak down test, rust, panel gaps, etc.

However there are collectors out there who will pay big money for original paint (or verified documented low mileage) early 911’s or 356’s.