lawrence1

You know, I think it's one of those things where you may be able to tell a difference in an academic exercise setting. Say you take 2 identical cars - one with DEM and one without, and throw in brand new engine mounts into both, then drive both in various conditions and RPMs for a while back to back.

In the real world where these cars are no longer brand new, for most people, I doubt there is a discernable difference. Certainly not something i would consider a must have. just my $0.02.

Just for fun, I priced out a new set of DEMs from a Porsche parts distributor (at a discount) ... $3,400 in parts only. The Porsche tax is alive and well!

ChrisF

Agree with above generally. Not enough difference to warrant them.

When I was first shopping for a 997.2 GT3 back in 2011, DEM was a must have. Perfect car came up and the one thing it didn't have was DEM. I had figured out that the pigtails for them exist in non-DEM cars and could be coded on and retrofitted. Tracked the car a few times and decided it didn't make enough difference as a friend had my car's twin, just with DEM. Never did it. Never regretted it.

My lesson from all of this is that for cars like the 997 gen with a limited pool, if it has a Mezger, a stick and a stock suspension, everything else is marginally necessary. PCCB? Aftermarket options that are better. Leather dash? never made a difference when entering/exiting a corner. Buckets? Can be had (expensively) used/new. Lift? Just don't lol.

You can spend forever looking for the "perfect" car or you can find a really great condition car and start driving it.

Bxstr

Best of luck with the search. I tend to give the same input to everyone, if you want a car a bit quicker, it may be worth it to reach out to a broker, Switchcars, Merit Partners, Columbia Valley Luxury Cars, etc. Reach out for input to some of the members when you find something you like. People are willing to help and may notice things given that many have been around these cars for many years.

When I was shopping for my 997.2 C2S before my GT3, full leather was a must have. I passed on so many good cars, actually many GTS' for the same money that I ended up spending on my C2S. Once I got it, I realized the only time I noticed the full leather was when sitting at a traffic light or cleaning my car. My GT3 has it and when I was shopping for my GT3, it wasn't a requirement. Just adding my $.02 as someone that learned that it really isn't necessary, although I will agree it makes the interior look, feel and smell a bit more premium. When I was buying my GT3, I really just wanted a car in excellent condition (cosmetically and mechanically) and ideally with service records. Crazy part is even those criteria that I just mentioned are getting harder.

haripin

Will keep an eye out for you. I had my dream spec that I wanted for many years but never came around, until one day it did. The spec was literally identical to what I wanted, down to the gauge and seat belt color specs. You'll find yours too. And when you do, consider adding it to the Generation 2 Registry!

Wonderdan

Thread Opinion Question: What time of year/week is best for shopping for a 997 GT3?

Real Answer: When you can afford it

j/k…

Does anyone have data on this?

I’ll tell you what I’ve observed but am too lazy to pull data for and some questions maybe you guys have opinions on.

- Auctions seem to end lower at the end of the year closer to the holidays, some really good deals at the new year and Christmas.

- Weekend times seem to draw less eyes and end lower for auctions

- Does pcarmarket pull less than BAT for like cars?

- Is winter/fall higher because people are bored and have time to think instead of drive, more car swapping going on?

- is spring higher because everyone wants a car before the sun comes out?

- are the production numbers so low that none of these things actually matter?

- Do tax returns matter in this category of car?

- Does this thread activity track to the number of 997 cars for sale, it seems we have some dead months, is that because there are less cars to talk about or because we are out driving.

RAudi Driver

Back in the day it was track season buy and winter sell.

shrp

GT Silver 997.2 8,123 miles at SF Exotics: https://www.sanfranciscoexoticcars.c...271e214730.htm

VIN:
WP0AC2A91BS783275

shrp

And another 997.2 GT3 in black at Porsche North Houston: 165k with 21k miles.

https://www.porschenorthhouston.com/...AC2A97AS783229

VIN: WP0AC2A97AS783229

Note around time of prior listings (see post 5996) there was talk of Range 5 overrevs and prices well below $150k

RAudi Driver

Wonder if this is Upscales old car.

Bxstr

I remember when this was up for sale initially. What a great thread.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...piggybank.html

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt3-10/

8Lug

130 miles added since the last sale one year ago. Why do people buy these things?

golfinz

Thanks for all the feedback. My 6GT3 has full leather and I like how it makes the car look and smell (ha - it's a real thing). Zweck has a white one with standard dash, no sports chrono (don't care) but asking 196k. Super higher seeing that Switch has a lower mileage one with EVERY box checked for 10k less. I think Zweck's should be priced around 170k. Will also call Doug and chat about the GT Silver car. Not my first choice in color, but hard to look away from a car with every option box checked.

Current self is kicking 2 week old self for not just buying buying the one on BaT. Stopped at 174k.

jason95R

Speculation. Buyer probably thought he could pocket a quick $25k because of all the talk at the time that the market for these will only go up. Not the way I would have looked at it but to each their own.

I have 2 little kids so my seat time is always limited. But I drove mine all last weekend as pretty much my daily. Took it to go play golf, took my daughter to her soccer game, took it to dinner with my wife. I cherish it everytime I get to take it out. Even the mundane times. Makes the longer spririted drive that much better.

Upscale Audio

Nope as it was just pointed out it was not mine. My car had PCCB, and the Euro rear bumper. It was so amazing. It seemed really fast but maybe that was due to the Sharkwerks center delete. A member here bought it from me.

8Lug

I thought you ended up selling yours to ATP? Did I have that mixed up?