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Old 02-07-2013, 07:21 PM
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Actually, 2008 was the last of the turbos to have the GT1 engine derivative. 2009-11 or 12 uses the 9A1 engine in turbo form. Most auto journalists including the top gear guys loved this version better.
Old 02-07-2013, 07:30 PM
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The 2011 GT2RS had the Mezger engine, not the 9A1.
Old 02-07-2013, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Porsche doesn't have a 'POWER' issue with the current engine, they still restricted.
It's a know fact that a flat 6 can produce 600HP in race configurations, so it has nothing to do with power.
Just wait and see the lap time of the 991 Cup with the 'OLD' dinosaur engine in it... I believe most will be surprised.
The 991 Cup with the Mezger certainly will be faster than the 997 Cup with the same motor, but it will obviously come down to the superior 991 chassis. Due to restrictors, you're absolutely right that power isn't the issue, but weight and efficiency are. I read that the Ferrari 458 V8 DFI can complete a 6 hour race with only 4 fuel stops, starting with a full tank and finishing with an empty one. The Mezger-engined Porsches need an extra stop, creating a tactical disadvantage. With 24 hour races often being decided by seconds these days, you can see where efficiency becomes a big deal.

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Old 02-07-2013, 09:58 PM
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Pardon my ignorance for racing regulations, but why are the RSR's restricted while their competitors like AM's DBR9 allowed to have 600hp with similar weight?
Old 02-07-2013, 10:01 PM
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Rear flat six engine rear wheel drive vs front eight cylinder engine rear wheel drive.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Old 02-07-2013, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
The 991 Cup with the Mezger certainly will be faster than the 997 Cup with the same motor, but it will obviously come down to the superior 991 chassis. Due to restrictors, you're absolutely right that power isn't the issue, but weight and efficiency are. I read that the Ferrari 458 V8 DFI can complete a 6 hour race with only 4 fuel stops, starting with a full tank and finishing with an empty one. The Mezger-engined Porsches need an extra stop, creating a tactical disadvantage. With 24 hour races often being decided by seconds these days, you can see where efficiency becomes a big deal.
Agreed.
Old 02-07-2013, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by X2daC
Rear flat six engine rear wheel drive vs front eight cylinder engine rear wheel drive.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
The Aston has a v12 front mid mounted
Old 02-07-2013, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctic Wolf
Pardon my ignorance for racing regulations, but why are the RSR's restricted while their competitors like AM's DBR9 allowed to have 600hp with similar weight?
I believe it's strictly a matter of balancing overall performance, not just a particular HP number. The Porsche is superior to the Aston in so many other ways that if it was allowed anywhere near the same HP, it would be no contest.
Old 02-07-2013, 10:28 PM
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More-cylinders design does yield advantages (e.g. shifting the powerband towards the lower rpm range, etc.) There are lots technical information on the web for sleepless night reading
Old 02-07-2013, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctic Wolf
The Aston has a v12 front mid mounted
The Vantage GTE is V8 me thinks?
Old 02-08-2013, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ur20v
All sounds great to me, really looking forward to a sorted pdk.

Sounds like you'll get just what Porsche decides just like every other manufacture bar BMW who folded and gave the US a terrible manual M5!!!??????
Sorry I have the new M5 F10 in MT and its fantastic. I think BMW did a great job this time. Either way Porsche has a 7MT already in the S and 4S I don't have any idea why they would not just make everyone happy and offer options. Its how they make a killing anyways - making you pay for stuff to add-on
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Aren't the flat sixes undeniably down on torque vs. the Corvette and Viper, as well as all the others?
Old 02-08-2013, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chago996
Actually, 2008 was the last of the turbos to have the GT1 engine derivative. 2009-11 or 12 uses the 9A1 engine in turbo form. Most auto journalists including the top gear guys loved this version better.
Just want to point out that 2009 Turbo's still used the Mezger and not the 9A1, 2010 Turbo were facelifted at same time as 9A1 arrival
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Originally Posted by CRex
*PDK only
It will be like driving a ROTAX MAX go-kart with a lot more power...

As long as the PDK drivers take a few second handicap in timed lap battles, I guess I'm good... I am just not looking forward to the newbies bragging about how they WON their DE in their new PDK GT3s...

-B
Old 02-08-2013, 02:19 AM
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sorry Crex, but you are dead wrong.
after many gt3, i am tight with PAG.
my connection informed me that the next RS will be inline six, horizontally opposed, left foot operated PDK, with 6 wheel steering (tyrrell), auto pilot with pre programmed track map so you can sip mocha while setting lap records. there will be a purple rotating button on the upper left side of the alcantara/boron composite steering wheel, where u can choose the style of driving: walter, jorg, pat, wolf and such. only 4 programs. if you want more, you must have PAG unlock the ECU to add memory then buy more driving programs. you can also stream the programs via iphone6: iOS7.12v.5

i look forward to this new technology. afterall, i can barely program my own vcr. i am still on betamax


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