View Poll Results: COTA ultimate DE Cup 2/1 - 2/3 2013
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02-04-2013, 08:11 PM
#601
Sorry I had to miss dinner saturday!
02-04-2013, 08:13 PM
#603
Race Car
Too funny. Hopefully your list is almost done. Hope she gets her neck taken care of.
02-04-2013, 08:17 PM
#604
Nordschleife Master
Anyway, rambling now, but since I got the slicks, the car is so consistent from the second lap (1st lap warmup) to the very last lap, it's actually easier to drive. If you are sliding, oversteering, rotating, etc. you are doing something wrong because the tire gives huge grip and don't like to slide. When it does slide, it's pretty abrupt, so even intentional trail braking rotation doesn't really help. Tires don't get greasy either.
You are either at the limit or below the limit of grip
Slicks seem to not overheat as easy
Watched guys all weekend running Hoosier way below grip limit
02-04-2013, 08:24 PM
#605
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^^This^^
You should know... You KNOW the grip limit.
You should know... You KNOW the grip limit.
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02-04-2013, 10:47 PM
#607
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LOL good one Tal. 
I may not be the fastest drover, best was a 2:38.3 on NT01's, but I'll bet I have the fastest point by arm in the group. 
unless you are LG then I will point you buy and drag race you up the front straight.
Peter
I may not be the fastest drover, best was a 2:38.3 on NT01's, but I'll bet I have the fastest point by arm in the group. unless you are LG then I will point you buy and drag race you up the front straight. Peter
02-05-2013, 01:30 AM
#612
Subtle ways to request a point-by
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From me (silver GT-R) or from the 996?
A number of the quicker cars were resorting to going deep down the extra width of asphalt on the inisde at 11 and then more or less stopping in order to get the attention of the car in front who is on the normal line; once they turn in and start looking for their track out and they suddenly see you, the hand invariably comes shooting out of the left hand window. Potter round the apex at 10 mph and roll on by.
A number of the quicker cars were resorting to going deep down the extra width of asphalt on the inisde at 11 and then more or less stopping in order to get the attention of the car in front who is on the normal line; once they turn in and start looking for their track out and they suddenly see you, the hand invariably comes shooting out of the left hand window. Potter round the apex at 10 mph and roll on by.
02-05-2013, 02:07 AM
#613
Newbie in GT-R did a 2:28, but on slicks
Hoosiers are cool for setting down amazing lap times, but I still enjoy the thrill of keeping the car under control with the Nitto's. Hoosiers are a lot of fun and they make a great tire, but unless there is a trophy involved, I'd rather stay on R comps for DE's.
I still want to see video of the stock GTR doing 228's on stock tires!!!
I still want to see video of the stock GTR doing 228's on stock tires!!!
- some guy from CA in a grey 2010 with a half cage, in advanced
- John Muncey, from Houston, grey 2010, in RED
- me, from Austin, silver 2009, in RED
I went out the very first Friday session on street tires just for a look around at 50% pace, and turned at best a 2:50 ... fronts are new all season, rears new-ish summer, Dunlop runflats.
My GT-R is essentially bone stock[1] 480bhp and I did run a best time of 2:28.6, but that was on 295/680-19 Pirelli slicks, albeit they are both used[2] and the hard compound; they still look barely touched after 100 laps of COTA on a 1870kg car[3] with street camber setup and VDC on [4]
Muncey's car is also stock 485bhp, but slightly tweaked underneath, he has Alcon 410mm brakes, and coilovers of some German flavour. He was running new Hoosier R100s in 295/680-18 and his best lap was a 2:25
The guy from CA seemed to know what he was talking about, and it's easily believable that he ran a 2:28 on street rubber. I don't have his info but I can get it and find out.
BTW, I was really impressed with how fast the GT3RS is in a straight line; I was only keeping up with K3RMIT on the straights because he has an H pattern shifter and I was able to claw back a little distance on gear changes (PDK, btw, is even faster than the GT-R's DCT, just a thought for next time y'all
)[1] transmission cooler; aftermarket pads and front discs
[2] be grateful to our wealthier cousins in the Ferrari challenge
[3] GT-R's fat behind plus full tank plus my own fat behind
[4] at my level of ability, the confidence inspired by the safety net more than makes up for interference from the traction control
02-05-2013, 02:35 AM
#614
The Magical Mystery CRX
Hankook RS3 on the CRX are a bit better than the PSS on the GT3, but the real answer is a combination of lack of seat time in the P-car, and willingness to take it as close to edge as I am with the disposable CRX. I have 10x invested the GT3 versus the CRX, and no track day insurance, as it is mostly my cone dodger, not primary track toy. And finally, I've done no setup work yet on the GT3. It was very nervous at COTA, though not at TWS or Harris Hill (my home track). Still learning to speak Porsche...
Data logger crapped out on me at TWS. Had to use my iPhone as a lap timer. Shopping now for a whole new video/data system. Tired of my antiques...
Data logger crapped out on me at TWS. Had to use my iPhone as a lap timer. Shopping now for a whole new video/data system. Tired of my antiques...
Sorry to hear that, I had my own dedicated camera crew, we coulda loaned you a GoPro or two :-(
02-05-2013, 02:43 AM
#615
Bad boys, bad boys, ....
dcrooke - you were a bully the first day. Passed in corners even in places not allowed in the Advance group, blew by red flags, black flags, and passed after checkered flags. I understand your frustration but until somebody pays to you to drive COTA, relax and enjoy. Have fun, why we were there.
The red group did have 5 slow drivers, +3 min on the laps, grid in the back for them and you pass them after 4 laps. Ex, I was exciting 18 at 95mph, while the white and the blue mustangs were doing 65. That is interstate speed!!!! Next time your are behind somebody slow, be productive; hey there are people watching around the track, wonder what they are doing? Flag, they must be cheering me on!! So many pretty colors, wonder what they mean, and also, leave space, look for entry points, apex, throttle application point, references, etc etc.
Luckily I was fast enough that you only passed me once on Sat after you had pitted :-). I also made sure I lined up about four-five cars behind you in the grid.
FYI, my 2005 GT3 hit rev limiter 8100 rpm in 4 th gear on back strait, speedo read 151. :-))))
All the best
Tor
The red group did have 5 slow drivers, +3 min on the laps, grid in the back for them and you pass them after 4 laps. Ex, I was exciting 18 at 95mph, while the white and the blue mustangs were doing 65. That is interstate speed!!!! Next time your are behind somebody slow, be productive; hey there are people watching around the track, wonder what they are doing? Flag, they must be cheering me on!! So many pretty colors, wonder what they mean, and also, leave space, look for entry points, apex, throttle application point, references, etc etc.
Luckily I was fast enough that you only passed me once on Sat after you had pitted :-). I also made sure I lined up about four-five cars behind you in the grid.
FYI, my 2005 GT3 hit rev limiter 8100 rpm in 4 th gear on back strait, speedo read 151. :-))))
All the best
Tor
I did miss a few flags on Friday, but definitely no passing in the corners, that one I'll blame on John GT-R was hitting limiter in 5th, also 150-ish with the 19" wheels, could use 6th briefly with a good exit from 11.