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Old 01-12-2011, 08:19 PM
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Default Heel & Toe w/ Hurley

Sort of a clunky video but there are some pearl's within it.
Who wouldn't want to drive a GT3 at Barber?
I know I would!


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Thanks enjoyed it
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Nice find. Hurley, Barber, and the GT3 were great. Cufflinks and pocket square not so much.

Hurley clearly prefers steel brakes.
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Hurley IS a tough instructor...but really helpful.
His driving style is interesting-when we were at speed, he held the wheel with his fore finger & thumb in each hand. Hurley said "the difference between a true Pro driver and an am driver, is that he knows that "if the car spins,( he) will be able to catch it & recover", so there is no fear of speed.
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good video, thanks.
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+1. I like his matter-of-fact style of instructing. No need to extra ego boosting.
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I'm curious as to how many of you use the exact heel/toe technique he teaches? Personally, I use the ball of my foot for both, rolling it over to catch the throttle.
Old 01-16-2011, 03:25 AM
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entertaining at the very least - thanks
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An automotive journalist who doesn't know how to heel toe? Shouldn't have called himself one in the first place.
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That's how I do it too...


Originally Posted by 24Chromium
I'm curious as to how many of you use the exact heel/toe technique he teaches? Personally, I use the ball of my foot for both, rolling it over to catch the throttle.
Old 01-16-2011, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CRex
An automotive journalist who doesn't know how to heel toe? Shouldn't have called himself one in the first place.
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
I'm curious as to how many of you use the exact heel/toe technique he teaches? Personally, I use the ball of my foot for both, rolling it over to catch the throttle.
I do it the same way you do... One thing the video did not state is that when you rollover and blip you MUST keep a constant pressure on the brake pedal ... Changing that is just as bad if not worse than not matching the revs in terms of a bad weight transfer!

I have tried the technique he demonstrates but I cannot maintain the constant pressure on the brake when I lift my heel off to blip...

I have a theory that taller/longer legs are not best suited to this style and the "ball rolling" technique is better for that ... It works for me anyway but then my feet are shaped like a ducks!
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I do it the same way you do... One thing the video did not state is that when you rollover and blip you MUST keep a constant pressure on the brake pedal ... Changing that is just as bad if not worse than not matching the revs in terms of a bad weight transfer!
Agreed!

Now that I'm going faster and braking later (or at least _trying_ to) in the Porsche, I'm having some issues in getting _enough_ force (or stroke) on the brake pedal when blipping the throttle. I was actually gonna try the Hurley method to see if that was any better. But... I think 35 years of muscle memory is going to be damn hard to erase!
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Well, on second thought... chirping the rear wheels will upset the car A LOT. But, if you can't slow down the car enough, you might have bigger problems - like crashing. LOL
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Originally Posted by 24Chromium
Agreed!

Now that I'm going faster and braking later (or at least _trying_ to) in the Porsche, I'm having some issues in getting _enough_ force (or stroke) on the brake pedal when blipping the throttle. I was actually gonna try the Hurley method to see if that was any better. But... I think 35 years of muscle memory is going to be damn hard to erase!
I have never been able to master his method ... Icant keep a constant pressure on the toes while lifting my heel of off the floor ... I think it's a function of both leg and foot length.. The longer either is the harder it is to use HH's method...

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