997 GT2 Market
#421
All Things Porsche and Grand Prix Motors both have GT2 listings with 'Contact Dealer for Price'. Why not list a price? Seems to me this is a prime climate for market manipulation given the very low production numbers of the 997 GT2 and demand for enthusiast vehicles. Otherwise, why not simply list a price? How did we go from high 100's-low 200's to 400's in a matter of months?
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All Things Porsche and Grand Prix Motors both have GT2 listings with 'Contact Dealer for Price'. Why not list a price? Seems to me this is a prime climate for market manipulation given the very low production numbers of the 997 GT2 and demand for enthusiast vehicles. Otherwise, why not simply list a price? How did we go from high 100's-low 200's to 400's in a matter of months?
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#423
All Things Porsche and Grand Prix Motors both have GT2 listings with 'Contact Dealer for Price'. Why not list a price? Seems to me this is a prime climate for market manipulation given the very low production numbers of the 997 GT2 and demand for enthusiast vehicles. Otherwise, why not simply list a price? How did we go from high 100's-low 200's to 400's in a matter of months?
These cars trading at or below original MSRP despite the low production numbers never made sense.
It's not uncommon for rare 911's to trade at a multiple of the original MSRP, and now the 997.1 GT2 has entered that world where it likely belongs.
#424
All Things Porsche and Grand Prix Motors both have GT2 listings with 'Contact Dealer for Price'. Why not list a price? Seems to me this is a prime climate for market manipulation given the very low production numbers of the 997 GT2 and demand for enthusiast vehicles. Otherwise, why not simply list a price? How did we go from high 100's-low 200's to 400's in a matter of months?
#425
I agree 7.1 gt2’s have been undervalued for some time. But these price increases of this magnitude are definitely not because “the market is speaking” or because the market “woke up.” This is a few dealers getting together to capitalize on very low inventory and production numbers. This is why it has been so hard to value these things for a while. Just not enough “real” transactions to define the market. Just my opinion. Could be wrong if “real buyers” start paying these prices that start with a 3 or 4.
Last edited by ScottArizona; 12-20-2021 at 03:17 PM.
#426
Ok...I'll plant a flag in the ground for transparency and for fun*
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
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#428
Ok...I'll plant a flag in the ground for transparency and for fun*
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
I have mixed feelings on pricing. While I hope the rest of the world recognizes how rare and special they are, it would come with an offset that they will be driven less and less. As it is, there are only a hand full with real mileage (40K and over). I think 300-400k is a pipe dream honestly but in this insane market, who knows.
#430
Ok...I'll plant a flag in the ground for transparency and for fun*
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
2008 GT2
Speed Yellow
Black interior with full yellow stitching
$213k+ MSRP
Carbon Fiber interior bits
Bucket Seats
100% stock (no mods) At one point prior to my ownership it had aftermarket exhaust, but now original exhaust back on.
Only unknown if the passenger side lower rock panel was repainted. One of the previous "owners" who purchased from PNH said their dealer detected paint work in one spot. PNH did not. My PPI did not, but GT2 decal could be in that spot. I had it fully wrapped after paint measurements.
Full exterior Xpel wrap in 2020.
Open wallet maintained.
Delaminated carbon fiber bits on order (for over a year...PNH continues to tell me change in OE supplier delaying production)
10,700 miles
Clean Car Fax
PPI at 7500 miles when I bought it had 62 ignitions at Range 4 and 542 at Range 3. I doubt I've exceeded any Range 2 since I bought it.
$415k
Not bothering to list anywhere else besides this thread.
* Listing there because I'd sell there and be happy to have the money. I would be sad if it sells and not really expecting it to sell. This could be way off market, or not. Feels in the realm of what I thought was unrealistic asks, but who knows.
I'll report if car sells or if I get any serious inquiries.
Car is currently at Hendrick Porsche in Charlotte, NC getting a new rear shoe and new windshield (rock chip caused a crack).
#431
That black CN GT2 had range 5 and 6 overrevs. Friend passed on it based on that.
#434
^bigmac
Your car was getting detailed along with mine at GTA in detail. Stunning car , i totally forgot about what car i was picking up when i seen your GT2
remember Kevin telling me it will be for sale soon. The black allows the GT2 to blend in and most people wouldn't recognize the beast hiding in plain sight. The Canadian market for many Porsches is so weird, sometimes its totally cold and then hot as a pistol the next. The 2 white GT2’s have been for sale for 1-2 years without any movement , but your was priced much more aggressively.
GLWS
Your car was getting detailed along with mine at GTA in detail. Stunning car , i totally forgot about what car i was picking up when i seen your GT2
remember Kevin telling me it will be for sale soon. The black allows the GT2 to blend in and most people wouldn't recognize the beast hiding in plain sight. The Canadian market for many Porsches is so weird, sometimes its totally cold and then hot as a pistol the next. The 2 white GT2’s have been for sale for 1-2 years without any movement , but your was priced much more aggressively.
GLWS
#435
^bigmac
Your car was getting detailed along with mine at GTA in detail. Stunning car , i totally forgot about what car i was picking up when i seen your GT2
remember Kevin telling me it will be for sale soon. The black allows the GT2 to blend in and most people wouldn't recognize the beast hiding in plain sight. The Canadian market for many Porsches is so weird, sometimes its totally cold and then hot as a pistol the next. The 2 white GT2’s have been for sale for 1-2 years without any movement , but your was priced much more aggressively.
GLWS
Your car was getting detailed along with mine at GTA in detail. Stunning car , i totally forgot about what car i was picking up when i seen your GT2
remember Kevin telling me it will be for sale soon. The black allows the GT2 to blend in and most people wouldn't recognize the beast hiding in plain sight. The Canadian market for many Porsches is so weird, sometimes its totally cold and then hot as a pistol the next. The 2 white GT2’s have been for sale for 1-2 years without any movement , but your was priced much more aggressively.
GLWS