The 997 GT3 mill has 115 HP/liter, and that's using Porsche's conservative rating. Are there many NA motors that top it?

 

Triode I agree it might not be THE best but it has to be up there and I thats all he was saying

 

honda s2k...managed to top that in last decade...

 

I take that as meaning these "stories of tranny failures on the GT-R that are starting to hit the shores" you are referring to are fabrications? I'm asking for some backup to your statements, which is textbook definition of a conversation, is this your definition of an uncivil behavior on a free forum? Like I said, fueling rumors without solid evidence is just what it is: spin. Exactly the sort of thing you feel car magazines are guilty of.

I'll ask again, please provide details about these reliability rumors you are propagating on this free forum, for civil conversation purposes.

By the way, having one's statement challenged on a forum is neither uncivil nor against the spirit of conversation and debate we all feel strongly about, on the contrary it's absolutely fair game and I doubt anyone will disagree with this.

Regards,
Chris

 

I don't know the S2000 figure (is it 120HP/liter or so?), but even if it slightly bests the '7 GT3's 115HP/liter, the GT3 actually has TORQUE as well, so would seem to be a much more well-rounded mill.

Besides the Honda, does any other NA motor beat the GT3 in this regard?

 

360 CS - 118 hp / liter
430 Scud - 118 hp / liter

BTW, hp per liter (specific output) is just one measure. I think specific output per lb of weight and specific output per dollar cost are also relevant. Hard to beat Honda's s/o per dollar value. Longevity is also highly relevant for street cars - I suspect Honda scores well there too?

Regarding torque, it was Honda that first came out with variable valve timing (vtec), wasn't it?

 

http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/...is-why-we.html

incase you guys missed it.

 

The new GT-R is too new to tell, but the older GT-R did compete in LeMans.. in 95, it was 10th overall, 5th in its GT-1 class (beaten only by McLaren F1 GTRs), and in 96, it finished 15th overall, and 10th in class. (again competing in the GT-1 class)

Since it ran in the GT-1 class, it probably never compete head to head w/ the 911s..

 

OG, that article is for you.

 

This is an existential question. Can the truth get more true? What about Truth with a capital t?

 

When is the damm thing coming out so we can see for our selves????

 

Nissan only has mined so much of the alien plasma from Roswell to line the engine bores, and has a tough time finding enough chupacabra labor to ramp up the production line. There is also a shortage of the magic pixie dust that helps the DSG cogs hardened enough to withstand the power of GODZIRWA.

 

Priceless, especially Godzirwa.

 

I saw the car in person and in action lapping the NRing a weekend ago. I actually like the way the car looks but is huge and looks huge, specially the 20" wheels.

Very Japaneese indeed. Style will look cool for a short while but will fade away in memory easily, but it has to be a market success given the performance so a successor is almost a guarantee (assuming Nissan continues to deliver financially).

I would buy one if it were RWD, as AWD is not my cup of tea irrespective of point A to B performance. Nevertheless it is an impressive engineering machine. Reliability, IMO is only an issue if the tranny cannot really withstand the duties with the stock engine. If you upgrade the power, then its the owner's problem and not Nissan's

 

Putting your transmission problem claims aside, let me address your question about Le Mans. Nissan raced an endurance version of the Skyline at Le Mans in 1995 and 1996, in 95 the best result was 10th overall and 5th in GT1 category, the 4 teams that beat the Skyline in its class were running McLaren F1s, no less.

Considering how quickly Nissan developed a GTR racer based on the current R35 model, we could hope to see a GTR compete at Le Mans, however I don't think it will be allowed to run in the same class as the 997 GT3RSR (which runs in the GT2 class).

Regards,
Chris