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Drove these two back-to-back in some nice mountain twisties today...
My 2002 996 Turbo in Polar Silver and a friends 2016 991 GT3 RS. I've driven a few GT3s, but never an RS. While it is an amazing car, I have to say I was happy to get back into my Turbo?
1. Manual transmission is just way more fun in mountain twisties...
2. Gobs of torque (Turbo) is just way more fun in mountain twisties...
3. The aero advantage of the big RS wing is of no benefit at mountain twisties speeds,..
Maybe it's just confirmation bias, but it's kind of amazing how a 20 year old ~$70K current value 996 Turbo can in many ways outshine a 6 year old ~$200K current value GT3 on the kind of weekend dries I like to do?
Originally Posted by pfbz
I also did some serious twisties in this Lotus Evora 400 today...
Man, this one surprised me... I LOVED it! Now if I could only have one, I'd still keep the Turbo, but it has me seriously considering selling one of the 996 Turbos and picking one of these up, especially since they are about the same current value...
It was visceral, direct, had the correct number of pedals, sounding amazing, and really felt quite special.
(Although not today, I've also driven that hot-rod SC in the picture below and it is also an absolute blast!)
You and I do a lot of the same driving, it seems. Lots of long mountain driving trips on the weekends. One of the guys in the group had an Evora and switched to a 991 3RS. In fact, there are now 3-4 991 3RS in the bunch. They really like them. My car is quite a bit faster than them all (one is a full GMG car), and I get to row gears, so I share a lot of the same sentiments. The elevation at which we drive really increases the power gap between us and the n/a cars though.
You and I do a lot of the same driving, it seems. Lots of long mountain driving trips on the weekends. One of the guys in the group had an Evora and switched to a 991 3RS. In fact, there are now 3-4 991 3RS in the bunch. They really like them. My car is quite a bit faster than them all (one is a full GMG car), and I get to row gears, so I share a lot of the same sentiments. The elevation at which we drive really increases the power gap between us and the n/a cars though.
Drove the 991.1 GT3 RS yesterday, same roads... Of course I liked it.. But i was also happy to get back into the 996 Turbo.
But if I'm going to have a PDK/electric-steering-rack/driver-aids car, I'll take my 991 Turbo S with the huge helping of extra horsepower and torque, much higher original sticker and much lower current pricing.. You can sharpen the handling of a 991 Turbo far more easily than you can add all the missing ponies to the GT3 (again, *particularly* noticeable at 8,000-10,000 feet!)
The Evora driving feel is IMHO closer to a very well set up 996 Turbo or 997.2 manual GT3 than a 991 GT3 RS, and I could have driven all day. As for Lotus reliability, I don't think it is anywhere near the "old" Lotus reputation and their forums seem to paint a pretty decent picture.
The Evora largely a collection of top-quality parts/sub-systems assembled into a lightweight chassis with a composite body shell. Toyota engine, Edelbrock supercharger, AP brakes, Recaro seats, Bilstein suspension, Alpine info-tainment, Ford steering stalks, etc....
I measured 63cm at the front and 64cm at the rear, ground to top of the fender lip through the center cap.
The left rear tire is out of round, no wonder the set was cheap. Not to worry, I'll finish them off in a couple of months.
The left rear toe was out too. Now it drives a lot better.
Still not rolling freely to a stop. Then I noticed more brake dust on the front right wheel and yes the brake is binding. The wheel doesn't spin freely and the sway bar drop link top nut won't tighten, stripped threads, so I get an occasional clunk.
Well, it wasn't so much what I did "to" my 996 this weekend, but what I did "for" it: Finally got an offer accepted on a new home and will be upgrading from a 450 square foot garage with low ceilings to a 1200 square foot garage with 10 foot ceilings.
Well, it wasn't so much what I did "to" my 996 this weekend, but what I did "for" it: Finally got an offer accepted on a new home and will be upgrading from a 450 square foot garage with low ceilings to a 1200 square foot garage with 10 foot ceilings.
Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious
Big boy lift or a stacker. I'm currently in the "I'm never going to financially recover from this" mental phase at the moment though. LOL
Sick! Congrats! That's a 6 car garage right there brother, awesome.
I feel your pain on the financial part. I have such a hard time justifying larger purchases that don't produce cash flow as I just see it pushing my goal of retirement to part-time further away from my goal which is currently age 45.
I feel your pain on the financial part. I have such a hard time justifying larger purchases that don't produce cash flow as I just see it pushing my goal of retirement to part-time further away from my goal which is currently age 45.
It's a constant struggle. On one hand there's the "you can afford this, live a little" and on the other there's the "yeah, but this chunk of cash won't produce additional money in the future (or at least enough to truly justify the purchase". Your early retirement goal is a bit more aggressive than mine, I'm shooting for more like 55.
06-05-2022, 04:44 PM
