What did you do to your 996TT today?
I have not driven a McLaren, but from a numbers perspective, they are most dominant.
After the reminder of my preferred driving style as I age (time over distance, high avg miles per hour), I am fairly certain that the McLaren would be lost on me.
I caught myself this morning eclipsing a very high rate of speed, comfortably, with no drama. Got me thinking, how much do I really need?
Area 27, to which I have been invited to, is really the only track of note in Canada, a couple of good ones south of me, and close to you.... But if I can extract immense enjoyment out of a 450 mile run, over the course of several hours, it's a hard sell to build a track ready car, especially because Montana exists and is just a few short hours away.
After the reminder of my preferred driving style as I age (time over distance, high avg miles per hour), I am fairly certain that the McLaren would be lost on me.
I caught myself this morning eclipsing a very high rate of speed, comfortably, with no drama. Got me thinking, how much do I really need?
Area 27, to which I have been invited to, is really the only track of note in Canada, a couple of good ones south of me, and close to you.... But if I can extract immense enjoyment out of a 450 mile run, over the course of several hours, it's a hard sell to build a track ready car, especially because Montana exists and is just a few short hours away.
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I am wrapping up a 993 Turbo project. It makes about half the power of the 996 Turbo I posted above. Yesterday I completed a 100 mile test drive to make sure the fueling did what it was supposed to do at 11000 feet elevation. I never exceeded 65mph, but still a very enjoyable drive.
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No doubt a 991 Turbo is a great platform (and one of the few) where you could build a Mclaren killer and not end up spending double what an actual McLaren costs. One of the issues is the curb weight on a Turbo S starts off at least 400 pounds more than a 720S. And the carbon monocoque provides huge stiffness right out of the gate. Stiff, powerful, light, and designed by guys who really know race cars is a potent combo to overcome.
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#3 You know where I am on K16 vs K24's. The K24's are the turbo's Porsche should've put on all of these, power dying off up top shows that the turbo choice is too small. You can adjust power delivery with gear choice. The K24's equal the K16's at 4000rpm and rocket away from there. Unless you're in a really low speed corner, the K16's aren't really better. I don't ever feel like my K24's don't have enough torque down low but up top they're epic.
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My car has become more of a highway car than a city car - I cannot really ring it out without going stupid fast.
I like the k16s in the city, k24s on the open road.
980s TBD.
I like the k16s in the city, k24s on the open road.
980s TBD.
McLaren's definitely have some "McLarenness"... Some folks seem to have great experiences with them, others less so. I think there quality and consistency improved greatly starting model year 2020, but a combination of a buggy car and not having a great dealer nearby can certainly dampen the experience.
No doubt a 991 Turbo is a great platform (and one of the few) where you could build a Mclaren killer and not end up spending double what an actual McLaren costs. One of the issues is the curb weight on a Turbo S starts off at least 400 pounds more than a 720S. And the carbon monocoque provides huge stiffness right out of the gate. Stiff, powerful, light, and designed by guys who really know race cars is a potent combo to overcome.
No doubt a 991 Turbo is a great platform (and one of the few) where you could build a Mclaren killer and not end up spending double what an actual McLaren costs. One of the issues is the curb weight on a Turbo S starts off at least 400 pounds more than a 720S. And the carbon monocoque provides huge stiffness right out of the gate. Stiff, powerful, light, and designed by guys who really know race cars is a potent combo to overcome.
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the 991TT seems almost like a boring car to have...you can run high 9s with a tune and an exhaust more or less from what I gather.
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There are tons of comparatively "low speed" corners in our typical morning twisties... Switchbacks galore going up Deer Creek, Squaw Pass, Golden Gate, etc.. I want the torque coming on strong at 3,000, not 4,000, and I'm OK with power tapering off near redline. Again, in the twisties. Track is a different story. And sure, you could re-gear a car to shift the power to the speed/rpm range you are looking for, but that is far from a cost effective solution in a 996 Turbo.
Your McLaren is nuts, on a totally different level. The amount of money you'd need to spend on a 996 to bring it to McLaren levels is to the point that it just doesn't make sense to do.
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Not anymore, however, the State guys are pretty liberal about it - I followed a trooper for about 15 miles and he was running 115+, didn't seem at all bothered I kept up with him, waved when he pulled off the highway.
Wow. That's awesome. I have driven open roads in Wyoming in a ****box but the troopers were ticket happy.
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Fun fact, two times ago when I did this run, I was fueling up at Conoco and this trooper pulled in with a charger, sounded lumpy. Turned out it was, 500+ HP, armed to the teeth, really nice guy. We got to talking and he said in Montana, they won't even look at you doing 10 over, and as long as you aren't driving like a 'yobbo' (his words), they'll leave you alone, primarily because they are under staffed on highway patrol units.
I think this to be relatively true, only saw a couple of troopers the whole way through the state.
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Best timed run, and last of the good roads; I was a little north of Calgary, so it wasn't 300kms, it was 276kms @2hr4m.
The moment you're into Edmonton, and west, the road surface is horrid, and you can run at about 85mph (140kmh), but it gets really annoying after awhile.
The moment you're into Edmonton, and west, the road surface is horrid, and you can run at about 85mph (140kmh), but it gets really annoying after awhile.