What did you do to your 996TT today?
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Last night I swapped wheels on the 996s. The silver car has new Pirelli 235/40/18F and 315/35/18 R. I put them on the black car. Such a huge difference in ride and noise comfort. The black car had stock size used old and hard Dunlops. Interestingly the Pirellis slide around more in the wet than the semi-slick/worn out Dunlops.
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I just put some BCs on my Talon this weekend.
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Then there was something wrong with your truck. I have two turbo diesels here, a Cayenne and a Touareg. Both kick *** anywhere from 6000-11000 feet above sea level and punch well above their weight. I went from my 200 Series Land Cruiser (400hp, 400ft lbs) to my Touareg, (240hp, 406ft lbs) and it annihilated my Land Cruiser. Then I tuned the Touareg to 320hp, 500ft lbs and it's no comparison. Stock to stock, the Land Cruiser would have to down shift twice going up the passes and struggle to hold onto 75mph, the diesels hold top gear and easily do 80mph, with acceleration a tickle away.
There was so much smoke, it was truly impressive.
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That will be a winter project. I'm going to yank the entire suspension out and have the control arms powder coated, new bushings, new (bigger) brakes, braided lines, rebuild the axles, etc.
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Not exactly...
Yes, no problem - talked to these folks https://performanceshock.com/ and basically, it'll be around $1000USD to rebuild them, a little more if I do the rods, but I do like the way they work, I haven't really found the limit as it were, and after John's advice on tightening up the front after the AWD was removed, I was pretty happy with how that was working, until I managed to break the adjustment **** off.
So the experiment is to try these on the Sti, and they are for the Sti. I have managed to bend the left rear rod (not entirely sure how, but if it can be broke, I'll break it...) so it's very clunky, but very impressively, it's not leaking. I thought I'd try these BC units on it and figure out if I want to put a set on the turbo while the Bilsteins are rebuilt, or if I want to cough up the silver and put those fancy DSC coil overs (Damptronics) and DSC sport controller, exactly what is on the 991. I am more than impressed how the DSC sport controller works on the 991 with the GT3 touring program - it is much noticeably better than the OEM program and other than a couple of software hiccups, it has worked flawlessly.
The downside of doing this upgrade on the 996 is cost - by the time the dust settles, it'll be close to a $10k CDN suspension (shock/spring) upgrade, so given everything else that is in the pipe for the turbo, I thought it would be prudent to give these BC units a go, and if they are reasonably good, I may in fact 'slum' it and put a set on the turbo when I pull the PSS9s off and get them rebuilt. If I don't like how they perform on the STi, I'll suck it up and go with the DSC upgrade, because it is absolute magic on the 991.
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@2fcknfst is slumming it now!! woo
The downside of doing this upgrade on the 996 is cost - by the time the dust settles, it'll be close to a $10k CDN suspension (shock/spring) upgrade, so given everything else that is in the pipe for the turbo, I thought it would be prudent to give these BC units a go, and if they are reasonably good, I may in fact 'slum' it and put a set on the turbo when I pull the PSS9s off and get them rebuilt. If I don't like how they perform on the STi, I'll suck it up and go with the DSC upgrade, because it is absolute magic on the 991.
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I am always impressed by how clean you get everything - that wheel well looks new, save for the rusty rotor.
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I have found BC and Feals are excellent provided you aren't trying to go too low and/or adjust the spring rate and dampening to something that's not teeth rattling stiff. I have Ohlins on one of my cars and BC DS on the other and for the amount of lowering i've done (less than 1in in both cases) they ride pretty comparable given the wheel/tire combo is different on each car.
As long as you set expectations properly less expensive coilovers are fine for daily and light track duty.
As long as you set expectations properly less expensive coilovers are fine for daily and light track duty.
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So the experiment is to try these on the Sti, and they are for the Sti. I have managed to bend the left rear rod (not entirely sure how, but if it can be broke, I'll break it...) so it's very clunky, but very impressively, it's not leaking. I thought I'd try these BC units on it and figure out if I want to put a set on the turbo while the Bilsteins are rebuilt, or if I want to cough up the silver and put those fancy DSC coil overs (Damptronics) and DSC sport controller, exactly what is on the 991. I am more than impressed how the DSC sport controller works on the 991 with the GT3 touring program - it is much noticeably better than the OEM program and other than a couple of software hiccups, it has worked flawlessly.
The downside of doing this upgrade on the 996 is cost - by the time the dust settles, it'll be close to a $10k CDN suspension (shock/spring) upgrade, so given everything else that is in the pipe for the turbo, I thought it would be prudent to give these BC units a go, and if they are reasonably good, I may in fact 'slum' it and put a set on the turbo when I pull the PSS9s off and get them rebuilt. If I don't like how they perform on the STi, I'll suck it up and go with the DSC upgrade, because it is absolute magic on the 991.
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I have found BC and Feals are excellent provided you aren't trying to go too low and/or adjust the spring rate and dampening to something that's not teeth rattling stiff. I have Ohlins on one of my cars and BC DS on the other and for the amount of lowering i've done (less than 1in in both cases) they ride pretty comparable given the wheel/tire combo is different on each car.
As long as you set expectations properly less expensive coilovers are fine for daily and light track duty.
As long as you set expectations properly less expensive coilovers are fine for daily and light track duty.
That was twenty years ago.
Now that I'm older, I'm leaning towards tight, not overly sprung, comfy, and still have to ability to break the back end out, while keeping the front planted.
On the turbo, as noted above, the OEM set-up on the 991 with a sport controller is exceptional, so it seems like a logical upgrade, but as noted, pretty spendy.
Everyone running the bc setup has nothing but good things to say. About the most track I'll see out of the car is maybe a drivers day out at area 27, but otherwise, strictly street.
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Kind of punching pennies, but kind of not....
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The only guy I know of who used the electronic coilover setup on 996TT has since removed it, he was using the tractive electronic dampers with the DSC controller and wasn't happy with how it worked. Hes moved to a remote reservoir manually adjustable setup. The integration with this platform isn't at the OEM level of quality/performance like the modern cars- I don't know if it is lack of sensors, lack of control logic... but something to consider before spending 10k. He had it in the car for 4-5 years if I remember right and never quite nailed it down. At that price point I'd be looking at JRZs personally, MCS is another popular option around here.
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The only guy I know of who used the electronic coilover setup on 996TT has since removed it, he was using the tractive electronic dampers with the DSC controller and wasn't happy with how it worked. Hes moved to a remote reservoir manually adjustable setup. The integration with this platform isn't at the OEM level of quality/performance like the modern cars- I don't know if it is lack of sensors, lack of control logic... but something to consider before spending 10k. He had it in the car for 4-5 years if I remember right and never quite nailed it down. At that price point I'd be looking at JRZs personally, MCS is another popular option around here.
I could set the sag and adjust the clickers on my dirtbikes but actually setting up the valving was out of my league but some people manage to do it. It's kind of a black art if you will..
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The only guy I know of who used the electronic coilover setup on 996TT has since removed it, he was using the tractive electronic dampers with the DSC controller and wasn't happy with how it worked. Hes moved to a remote reservoir manually adjustable setup. The integration with this platform isn't at the OEM level of quality/performance like the modern cars- I don't know if it is lack of sensors, lack of control logic... but something to consider before spending 10k. He had it in the car for 4-5 years if I remember right and never quite nailed it down. At that price point I'd be looking at JRZs personally, MCS is another popular option around here.
If memory serves, there was a fellow recently on the board trying to troubleshoot an issue with the same system, but have not seen, or heard anything for awhile, so I figure he sorted it out.
As I said earlier, I'm getting old...