QwikKotaTX

We need pics, man!

vtec_

@2fcknfst is slumming it now!! woo

Capt. Obvious

I just put some BCs on my Talon this weekend.

2fcknfst

Oh yes, something seriously wrong - the shop suspected it was a pressure vane controller (?), but of course, when I got it back to Vancouver, it was working fine.

There was so much smoke, it was truly impressive.

2fcknfst

Brakes are coming soon, I suspect...

Capt. Obvious

That will be a winter project. I'm going to yank the entire suspension out and have the control arms powder coated, new bushings, new (bigger) brakes, braided lines, rebuild the axles, etc.

2fcknfst

Not exactly...

Yes, no problem - talked to these folks https://performanceshock.com/ and basically, it'll be around $1000USD to rebuild them, a little more if I do the rods, but I do like the way they work, I haven't really found the limit as it were, and after John's advice on tightening up the front after the AWD was removed, I was pretty happy with how that was working, until I managed to break the adjustment **** off.

So the experiment is to try these on the Sti, and they are for the Sti. I have managed to bend the left rear rod (not entirely sure how, but if it can be broke, I'll break it...) so it's very clunky, but very impressively, it's not leaking. I thought I'd try these BC units on it and figure out if I want to put a set on the turbo while the Bilsteins are rebuilt, or if I want to cough up the silver and put those fancy DSC coil overs (Damptronics) and DSC sport controller, exactly what is on the 991. I am more than impressed how the DSC sport controller works on the 991 with the GT3 touring program - it is much noticeably better than the OEM program and other than a couple of software hiccups, it has worked flawlessly.

The downside of doing this upgrade on the 996 is cost - by the time the dust settles, it'll be close to a $10k CDN suspension (shock/spring) upgrade, so given everything else that is in the pipe for the turbo, I thought it would be prudent to give these BC units a go, and if they are reasonably good, I may in fact 'slum' it and put a set on the turbo when I pull the PSS9s off and get them rebuilt. If I don't like how they perform on the STi, I'll suck it up and go with the DSC upgrade, because it is absolute magic on the 991.

Cheers,

2fcknfst

I am always impressed by how clean you get everything - that wheel well looks new, save for the rusty rotor.

onyxeros

I have found BC and Feals are excellent provided you aren't trying to go too low and/or adjust the spring rate and dampening to something that's not teeth rattling stiff. I have Ohlins on one of my cars and BC DS on the other and for the amount of lowering i've done (less than 1in in both cases) they ride pretty comparable given the wheel/tire combo is different on each car.

As long as you set expectations properly less expensive coilovers are fine for daily and light track duty.

vtec_

I'd normally throw in my penny-pinching opinion but since you're a baller....make a thread on those DSC coilovers if you go that route!

2fcknfst

That's sort of what I am hoping to experience with the STi. Back in the day, I put super fancy 32 way adjustable gymkhana suspension on it, and for the most part, it was pretty neat.

That was twenty years ago.

Now that I'm older, I'm leaning towards tight, not overly sprung, comfy, and still have to ability to break the back end out, while keeping the front planted.

On the turbo, as noted above, the OEM set-up on the 991 with a sport controller is exceptional, so it seems like a logical upgrade, but as noted, pretty spendy.

Everyone running the bc setup has nothing but good things to say. About the most track I'll see out of the car is maybe a drivers day out at area 27, but otherwise, strictly street.

2fcknfst

I wouldn't go that far - I'm using a twenty year old platform as a test bed for a product I may use on the turbo ... But yeah, I'd like that super fancy dsc stuff..

Kind of punching pennies, but kind of not....

T10Chris

The only guy I know of who used the electronic coilover setup on 996TT has since removed it, he was using the tractive electronic dampers with the DSC controller and wasn't happy with how it worked. Hes moved to a remote reservoir manually adjustable setup. The integration with this platform isn't at the OEM level of quality/performance like the modern cars- I don't know if it is lack of sensors, lack of control logic... but something to consider before spending 10k. He had it in the car for 4-5 years if I remember right and never quite nailed it down. At that price point I'd be looking at JRZs personally, MCS is another popular option around here.

vtec_

I cant imgine a privateer/solo driver could setup a 3 way system unless he had LOTS of racing/track day experience under their belt in multiple platforms.

I could set the sag and adjust the clickers on my dirtbikes but actually setting up the valving was out of my league but some people manage to do it. It's kind of a black art if you will..

2fcknfst

That's very interesting. When I spoke to them awhile back, I was told that this was essentially an aftermarket version of the OEM system, retrofitted to the 996 chassis. It was also advised that the use of their mems accelerometer was crucial to the operation of the system. I asked if I could graft in one of our accelerometers, and they said they didn't see why not, but the conversation ended there.

If memory serves, there was a fellow recently on the board trying to troubleshoot an issue with the same system, but have not seen, or heard anything for awhile, so I figure he sorted it out.

As I said earlier, I'm getting old...