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Old 04-20-2023, 08:22 AM
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Old 06-17-2023, 01:33 PM
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I'll post a pic of the dyno run next week with exact numbers while I do not have it at hand just now, but some observations of a 3,8l 996C4S conversion. It was customer's car to which we did tuning (for the record I just install and datalog tunes...) including dyno runs at 3rd party dyno.
The car has a GT3 throttle body and 997's fuel rails with injectors, but OEM air filter box and completely original exhaust without any mods whatsover. After the dyno owner started to think about freeing both intake and exhaust... Engine produces a healthy torque of ~400 Nm (295 lbft) but falls on it's face at higher rpm range at only ~340 hp, top of the curve is flat. Numbers are from crank and datalogged MAF #'s are equal.
Old 07-25-2023, 10:21 AM
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Here's a V8 I want to see in a 996...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/swap-a...ar-v8-for-sale
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Old 07-25-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yaz996
Here's a V8 I want to see in a 996...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/swap-a...ar-v8-for-sale
That would make the coin I'm dropping on FSI look like chump change.
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Old 07-25-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by zagamuffin
My Hartech 3.9 complete oversize conversion Hartech 3.9 torque build
Any valve work, intake or exhaust?
Old 08-15-2023, 09:28 PM
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Pretty satisfying to meaningfully add to the thread. The tuner sent me the graph he saved, its from the 462HP run, we got a little more out of it but lost the graph to computer abyss, so we'll go with 462 for internet bragging purposes. This was on a Mustang chassis dyno

The engine: GM 6.2L L92 converted to LS3 spec with manifold / throttle body / injectors. Engine management is the stock GM ECU modified with HP tuners software.

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Katech LS3 Race Cam
PSI Beehive springs
Johnson Lifters
Magnaflow X Pipe resonator
2.5in Exhaust
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Put my M96 4.0 on the dyno today, 347hp with crap AFR.
3.6 → 4.0
Cams, headers, IPD, Fabspeed intake/headers/exhaust. few other goodies. Need to tune it...


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Old 09-01-2023, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sdwindr1
Put my M96 4.0 on the dyno today, 347hp with crap AFR.
3.6 → 4.0
Cams, headers, IPD, Fabspeed intake/headers/exhaust. few other goodies. Need to tune it...
Yeah man - seems like a pretty strong power number, high end of what we've seen on a 4.0.... Seems to me like every M96 graph I have seen seems so lean for what I would generally think would be a safe target for a NA car... Guess it shows how little I know about tuning, especially on a NA application. In the turbo days it was like - get it to 11.3-11.5ish under moderate boost and should be OK. I think my tuner for the LS had AFR around 12.5.

Got me curious so I snipped AFR from other guys that included...

Yours...




This is @NYoutftr 's 3.6 - after tune I believe.




This is @Jengah 's 3.8. He didn't mentioned if the engine had a tune on it.




This is the big power run that @BRS-LN posted.... would love to see an owner post something equitable.



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Originally Posted by sdwindr1
Put my M96 4.0 on the dyno today, 347hp with crap AFR.
3.6 → 4.0
Cams, headers, IPD, Fabspeed intake/headers/exhaust. few other goodies. Need to tune it...

good numbers… who did the 4.0 build?
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Autoworks Colorado. They were really good to work with.
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Originally Posted by sdwindr1
Autoworks Colorado. They were really good to work with.
Thanks for sharing, I updated the scorecard so folks in the future who may be looking for an engine build can reach out to them.
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Originally Posted by sdwindr1
Autoworks Colorado. They were really good to work with.
awesome! good to know .. did they use Schrick Cams?
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Originally Posted by Justin76
awesome! good to know .. did they use Schrick Cams?
These are Schrick Cams, however they were from the original rebuild years ago when the IMS bearing went boom with the previous owner. Bore Scoring issues (what prompted my rebuild) weren't a known issue when the 1st rebuild happened, so here we are with rebuild #2.

Schrick Cams part numbers were noted on 1st rebuild paperwork as follows:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Exhaust:
0454A1921-L0
0454A1921-R0

Intake:
0454E141-L0 ** Looking around, I suspect that this part number had a typo. Pretty sure they are actually 0454E1841-(x)0
0454E141-R0
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The cams, an IPD Plenum, and GT3 Throttle body were all part of the original rebuild. All of which were retained for rebuild #2.

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Originally Posted by sdwindr1
These are Schrick Cams, however they were from the original rebuild years ago when the IMS bearing went boom with the previous owner. Bore Scoring issues (what prompted my rebuild) weren't a known issue when the 1st rebuild happened, so here we are with rebuild #2.

Schrick Cams part numbers were noted on 1st rebuild paperwork as follows:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Exhaust:
0454A1921-L0
0454A1921-R0

Intake:
0454E141-L0 ** Looking around, I suspect that this part number had a typo. Pretty sure they are actually 0454E1841-(x)0
0454E141-R0
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The cams, an IPD Plenum, and GT3 Throttle body were all part of the original rebuild. All of which were retained for rebuild #2.
that would be my same plan for a 4.1 build for me as well .
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Originally Posted by JSETarga

2004 911 C2 3.6L

Peak HP 310 and torque 282

Engine Mods
BMC Air Filter
Muffler delete
Speedtech Headers
Speedtech Catless X Pipe
Softronic Tune
FVD deep sump
Motorsport AOS
AC Delete
Tarett Underdrive Pulley
LN IMS Solution
Fairly fresh plugs, coils and injectors
@JSETarga Do you feel like the Softronic Tune woke the car up a bunch? Are you happy with it?

@Justin76 @sdwindr1 - I'm in a similar boat with my 3.8 build - Schrick cams, IPD, GT3TB, etc., however, no tune as of yet...Is Softronic the way to go?

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