The 9A1 DFI engine is a bore scoring palace as well. Anybody that ventures over into 997 land on Rennlist will see that the PDK has folks on eggshells now, too. At least we know we only need to guard our rear end.

 

I have to agree with these observations. I have only ever met two types of 996 owners in person:

1: Those that bought the car when it was the current generation and most of these owners cared/know very little about anything beyond it's a sports car/Porsche
2. Those that bought it on a whim because they are cheap or inherited them and these owners also seemed to care very little about anything beyond it's a Porsche/performance car/status symbol they could afford.

Obviously this doesn't even come close to describing all 996 owners, and I would argue that most, if not all of us, just by virtue of being on this board actually have a true appreciation for these cars and would fall into other categories. However, in my anecdotal experience most buyers and owners don't share our appreciation for these fantastic cars, and as such don't know or care about all the little things we do. I'm sure most don't even know 996.1 vs 996.2 or realize that the engine changed midway through production.

I made a comment about it earlier in this thread, but I have been looking for a 996 for about 4 years now, at varying degrees of seriousness depending on what was going on in my life. My musts were always 6 speed and not achromatic. My preferences were always early car, LSD, sports seats, M030, coupe, C2, and good maintenance. Color was probably my second most important factor after manual, and I didn't care about the color being rare, just that I liked it. I did not care one bit about mileage, so long as maintenance and price reflected it. But depending on how badly I needed a car, there were times I was willing to compromise to the point I would have bought any non-silver 6 speed car. I have always been looking for a driver and I can do all of my own work, so that has definitely influenced what I am looking for. I specifically didn't want a pristine low mileage car. Thankfully, I found the right car at the right time and will be closing the deal on my 996 tomorrow, and aside from 2nd choice of exterior and interior color, it is exactly how I would have ordered a Carrera from the factory and has excellent maintenance history! Not bad for buying a 24 year old car!

 

$60K asks now for standard 996 Carrera

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/c...435757791.html

 

Guards red 6mt aerokit and low miles. Looks really clean. I think his price is pretty good. I'm not a fan of the wheels but its a pretty car

 

Beck's European ($60k car in question) is a repair shop in Scottsdale, not a dealership, so ... maybe an idealistic shop owner that knows he can sell it for that much to somebody in Snottsdale? It is a super clean car.

 

Snottsville? My goodness....

 

If it makes it easier I know it as "Snobbsdale"

 

I went there for the first time to pick up a car in October and my mind was blown that Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale and Glendale were all really just neighborhoods of Phoenix. In my head they were all separate cities. Now I know the truth.

 

It looks like a nice one, something about a red 911 is just so perfect.

 

To put the subject of Variable Valve Technology into the proper technical context and historical place, calling it "emission/EPA junk" is the biggest misnomer of the century.

Any Racer or engine builder in the 70's 80's who has ever "degree'd a high performance cam" would have given their left nut for a variable valve timing set-up to get a big edge on the competition.

Changing Cam Timing "on the fly" was stuff dreams were made from.....

Back then they would have a stack of different cams for different Tracks, and a host of cam timing tuning aids like off-set keyways of 2* 4* 6* 8* to manually advance or retard the cams 2-8* depending on the Cam and Track and manually adjustable cam gears. Changing cams and spending hours "degreeing the cam" was common place.

On my early 80's Racecar I had built a easily adjustable timing belt tensioner set-up where I could change cam timing by 10* in less than 10min, and a "trap door" in the firewall to extract the cam out of the back of the engine and change cams in 40 min.

Variable Valve Timing Technology came into the racing scene in mid 80's by Renault but was quickly BANNED by Formula 1 and NASCAR.to keep cost down and competition close. Their theory was that one team could dump a ton of money into R&D on Variable Valve Timing Technology that the other teams could not and gain an unfair advantage.

Sure the "Greenies" and EPA had a lot to do with finally getting Variable Valve Timing Technology into the main-stream automakers ( don't they always?) and the factories took advantage of the Technology to help get the fuel mileage up and emission down as well as the power increase and broad power band.

There is still a LOT of technology that hasn't yet made its way from Racing to main-stream, like the pneumatic valve springs that allow 20kRPM, or the "camshaft-less engines" that use electro-magnetic valve actuators instead of Camshafts that have infinite control over valve action . One example is the "FreeValve" by Koenisegg..

So, in no way I would think it be beneath Hans Mezger to be involved in some way with Vario-Cam,, and I have no idea what type of oil heater you are referring to he has patented on the Boxster/996, unless you are just talking about the oil cooler (heat exchanger)...

 

Well, there were about 175,000 996 variants sold in North America. How many of those 996 owners are on Rennlist?

I would submit to you that almost all of those Rennlist members fall in an enthusiast catagory, so that makes us a pretty biased bunch out of the total universe of 996 owners. So, I would say your observations are pretty spot on, no?

Good luck with your purchase and welcome to the 996 world.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20380574826...8105&customid=

Not a 996 but I had to share this spec.

Grey with a black stripe on the hood, a gold stripe on the side, black wheels, blue AND yellow calipers. wow. a little bit of everything.

 

Brings back memories. I had a stripe like that on my '61 VW!!!!

 

996 GT’s now approaching $300K

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt2-22/

Prices are no longer “drifting”, I would now characterize this situation as an intergalactic launch

 

I love a good GT2, but there are sooooo many other cars in that price range I'd rather have.

Buyer appears to be building quite an investment/collection. Smart man.