Hoovie' Garage does a 996 [again]
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The salt and gatekeeping in this thread is really unbecoming and says a lot more about some of the posters here than it does about the target of their criticism.
Hoovie is harmless, as is Demuro and Nick Murray. There's content out there that's far more insidious to hate on; start with any of the young influencers with hypercar channels, for instance.
Hoovie is harmless, as is Demuro and Nick Murray. There's content out there that's far more insidious to hate on; start with any of the young influencers with hypercar channels, for instance.
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100%, Paul brothers, Ricegum, Keemstar...people who genuinely try to exploit young kids. There is a lot of toxic culture out there on YT but the automotive stuff is fairly good. I get a kick out of all of the salt, especially coming from a crowd that has constantly had to hear over the years how 'awful' the 996 is.
Most hobbies have a small slice of people who can't see past their own fingertips when it comes to expanding the interested audience. It always seem to be more of a concentrated problem with autos, though.
I'm loving my 996. I hope others smile like I do when they drive theirs. I've found a very positive community here, which makes some of the responses here stand out for their pettiness.
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Political correctness has no place when it comes to machines. Embracing people that can’t tell the box end from the open end of a combination wrench, doesn’t make you a car guy or them.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
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Political correctness has no place when it comes to machines. Embracing people that can’t tell the box end from the open end of a combination wrench, doesn’t make you a car guy or them.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
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Political correctness has no place when it comes to machines. Embracing people that can’t tell the box end from the open end of a combination wrench, doesn’t make you a car guy or them.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
You are also not very intelligent if you don't understand the business model of youtube and how they are buying all of their cars. I'm not going to defend/bash any of those channels they dont care about my opinion they are doing just fine. You on the other hand were worth commenting on while I watch my brisket finish while my newly restored 911 sits in the garage completed by a skilled American business....you fool
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Ha! I’ve worked as a mechanic back in the 80s and 90s and since then I’ve had others work on my car.
Sometimes because they were experts. (Diesel Mercedes, Chevy transmission rebuild and Honda transmission rebuild)
Most of the time it was due to lack of time.
I’ve even paid for oil changes in Japanese vehicles when I had 60 hour work weeks. :O
Now days I do all my own work except for tires and alignments.
I have alignment tools, but the computer alignment are more accurate and less hassle for me.
I would never shame someone for not working on their cars.
That’s how I used to make money, working on people’s european cars.
...and for a while I was building Nissan race motors for a guy here in TX.
I’m glad he didn’t do all his own work!
I taught (pre-COVID) people how to work on their cars.
i hope to again soon.
Sometimes because they were experts. (Diesel Mercedes, Chevy transmission rebuild and Honda transmission rebuild)
Most of the time it was due to lack of time.
I’ve even paid for oil changes in Japanese vehicles when I had 60 hour work weeks. :O
Now days I do all my own work except for tires and alignments.
I have alignment tools, but the computer alignment are more accurate and less hassle for me.
I would never shame someone for not working on their cars.
That’s how I used to make money, working on people’s european cars.
...and for a while I was building Nissan race motors for a guy here in TX.
I’m glad he didn’t do all his own work!
I taught (pre-COVID) people how to work on their cars.
i hope to again soon.
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Exactly what his response was to and missed the whole point, gatekeeping. Can't have an opinion or content regarding autos unless you've been been a mechanic? Ridiculous. No one has said anything other than he's is entertainment, even though I think he comes off personable and seemingly genuine I understand its a show. Its all entertainment and all staged to some degree or another but that is Youtube. I like the Wizard and you think he's doing Youtube just for fun? Its another revenue stream, the guys got merch. Those two seem to have a good working relationship, hell I even like the other mechanic Johnny he goes to and wouldn't mind seeing him tear down more stuff, it looks like he has a nice shop. That being said its naive to think almost anybody doing Youtube that has any sort of following is just doing it out of the kindness of their heart. There definitely are channels that start out like that but if you can monetize why wouldn't you?
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Exactly what his response was to and missed the whole point, gatekeeping. Can't have an opinion or content regarding autos unless you've been been a mechanic? Ridiculous. No one has said anything other than he's is entertainment, even though I think he comes off personable and seemingly genuine I understand its a show. Its all entertainment and all staged to some degree or another but that is Youtube. I like the Wizard and you think he's doing Youtube just for fun? Its another revenue stream, the guys got merch. Those two seem to have a good working relationship, hell I even like the other mechanic Johnny he goes to and wouldn't mind seeing him tear down more stuff, it looks like he has a nice shop. That being said its naive to think almost anybody doing Youtube that has any sort of following is just doing it out of the kindness of their heart. There definitely are channels that start out like that but if you can monetize why wouldn't you?
Believe it or not, I actually give techs advice on how to troubleshoot and how to fix things, because I have a better theoretical understanding of some things, even though they are better wrench turners.
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Political correctness has no place when it comes to machines. Embracing people that can’t tell the box end from the open end of a combination wrench, doesn’t make you a car guy or them.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
Hoovie is in it for click revenue. Thinking that it’s anything more than that is disingenuous at best.
Instead of acknowledging that truth calling others salty, mean, or curmudgeons also doesn’t negate the fact.
Hoovie has as much automotive value as Krusty the Clown. The funny thing is car forums embrace the Hoovies and usually chase off the people with grease under their fingernails with this automotive PCness.
I remember a world when we judged people for their contributions instead of their feelings and intentions.
Hoovie does zip, the Wizard should be getting the money, not Hoovie.
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He may not know everything, but he IS very knowledgeable.
I’m certain he has wrenched before, but now hires really good mechanics.
No one person could maintain his collection.
They must be some of the best mechanics to be able to do what they do.
Working on old steam engines one day and modern super cars the next.
Jay is a car guy!
So is Tyler...just not at Jay’s level.
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I've enjoyed the banter in this thread, and found I know many of the channels mentioned. As for Hoovie, I find him in some borderline between an automotive channel and self-deprecating tragic-comedy. It's obviously working for him, he'll be making quite a nice sideline out of it.
Regarding other interesting YT channels, I didn't hear of Heidi and Frannie's garage mentioned. It's something different given it's created by females and not just glitzy presenters but hands-on enthusiasts.
The other one I really like is Home Built By Jeff:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_...F6sAwDg/videos
He's getting toward the end of a ground-up build on a 911RSR replica, some content from his 996 daily driver, a mad Ferrari-V8-engined Alfa 105 under construction, and other stuff. No BS, no hordes of people off camera doing the actual work, just him solving one problem after another with occasional star-quality cameo's by his lovely wife.
Has Project Binky been mentioned? Also great for the fabrication type stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/user/badobsessionmsport/videos
Regarding other interesting YT channels, I didn't hear of Heidi and Frannie's garage mentioned. It's something different given it's created by females and not just glitzy presenters but hands-on enthusiasts.
The other one I really like is Home Built By Jeff:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_...F6sAwDg/videos
He's getting toward the end of a ground-up build on a 911RSR replica, some content from his 996 daily driver, a mad Ferrari-V8-engined Alfa 105 under construction, and other stuff. No BS, no hordes of people off camera doing the actual work, just him solving one problem after another with occasional star-quality cameo's by his lovely wife.
Has Project Binky been mentioned? Also great for the fabrication type stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/user/badobsessionmsport/videos
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Hoovie is a younger and less abrasive version of Clarkson. I like him he know a lot more than he shows. The Wizard has his own channel and I follow him to an do does The Humble Mechanic (he is a VW mechanic and know a lot about them). I also like Project Binky, it's a fascinating project to follow. There are others watch just for entertainment such as PFI, BoostedBoiz and the ultimate modern redneck, Cleetus McFarlen.
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See that's one of the issues at play here, people value "entertainment" over actual subject matter expertise. Honestly, it dilutes the value of the forum considerably and chases off real actual subject matter experts.
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what does that first paragraph even mean? You cant enjoy anything unless you prefer working on it over using it? You must be lonely that's to bad. it's a simple cost time equation when I send my car to someone else to unbolt and rebolt parts more efficiently/better than I can. In exchange for my money, I keep my time. Your club is terrible, guess I'm not a "car guy", I'm good with that. I'm also glad that your sentiments are not shared by the others in this online community I've interacted with.
You are also not very intelligent if you don't understand the business model of youtube and how they are buying all of their cars. I'm not going to defend/bash any of those channels they dont care about my opinion they are doing just fine. You on the other hand were worth commenting on while I watch my brisket finish while my newly restored 911 sits in the garage completed by a skilled American business....you fool
You are also not very intelligent if you don't understand the business model of youtube and how they are buying all of their cars. I'm not going to defend/bash any of those channels they dont care about my opinion they are doing just fine. You on the other hand were worth commenting on while I watch my brisket finish while my newly restored 911 sits in the garage completed by a skilled American business....you fool
And no, you are no car guy I'd spend any time with.
It also sounds like your definition of a "mechanic" is a parts changer (someone who unbolts and rebolts parts). A real mechanic actually figures out what the problem is and fixes it.
And yes, if you know zip about the cars, your enjoyment of them is not the same as someone that knows more about them.
I'm really glad my sentiments aren't shared by everyone, because sure enough as time goes by, everyone is becoming like a cast type in the movie Idiiocracy.
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This is the type of response I expect from most around here. 1) You miss the point. 2) You're too lazy to even start a sentence with a capital letter. 3) Then you move onto insults.
And no, you are no car guy I'd spend any time with.
It also sounds like your definition of a "mechanic" is a parts changer (someone who unbolts and rebolts parts). A real mechanic actually figures out what the problem is and fixes it.
And yes, if you know zip about the cars, your enjoyment of them is not the same as someone that knows more about them.
I'm really glad my sentiments aren't shared by everyone, because sure enough as time goes by, everyone is becoming like a cast type in the movie Idiiocracy.
And no, you are no car guy I'd spend any time with.
It also sounds like your definition of a "mechanic" is a parts changer (someone who unbolts and rebolts parts). A real mechanic actually figures out what the problem is and fixes it.
And yes, if you know zip about the cars, your enjoyment of them is not the same as someone that knows more about them.
I'm really glad my sentiments aren't shared by everyone, because sure enough as time goes by, everyone is becoming like a cast type in the movie Idiiocracy.
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