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Old 03-13-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris2195
The car I wish I didn't get rid of was my first car, 01 Golf GTI. I loved that car and at the time I needed some suspension items taken care of, instead of fixing it I got an e46 m3 because I'm stupid. I'm still on the look out for a decent golf to have.

As for Hoovie I really enjoy his channel, he has a great personality. His is one of the few where I haven't gotten tired of the content like Samcrac, or Tavarish.
I had an 04 Jetta GLI that I rebuilt, that was a fun little car and I miss it simply for the fact that I rebuilt it. I had a 2010 GTI and it was worlds better in every way but I didn't have the same attachment to it.
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Motor Trend TV has a show that does exactly that. It's been on for at least 4 years.
Old 03-13-2021, 02:19 PM
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A Porsche 911 has 2 defining characteristics:
A FLAT SIX engine sitting BEHIND the rear axel.

If you lose one of those characteristics it’s no longer a Porsche 911.


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Originally Posted by philbert996
A Porsche 911 has 2 defining characteristics:
A FLAT SIX engine sitting BEHIND the rear axel.

If you lose one of those characteristics it’s no longer a Porsche 911.
So a Subaru flat six is good to go, right ?
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Old 03-13-2021, 04:30 PM
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Old 03-13-2021, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
He says he wants to do it "right" this time.
That would involve having someone who knows what they're doing rebuild a flat 6 for it.
But the person I would want to send it to knows better than to touch this nightmare!
I'm sure he could find a Porsche engine builder that "needs" the exposure to just give him an engine. The guys at the bottom are busy trying to beat each other up, so it wouldn't take much for him to pit them against each other, and get something installed for zero dollars. He could probably have them pay him, plus give him the engine. That's how most of these things work, especially magazine articles, and features.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
I agree. An ls motor will **** all over a m9x when it comes to tq and horsepower all over the curve.

And i was being generoua with the 375whp
Originally Posted by wildbilly32
That statement might not be accurate. Besides there is more to a well performing street engine that raw top end horsepower... I'm on Tex's side here.

I've seen the dynograph for the R series. I can't disclose the specifics, but it's a lot more rear wheel HP than 375.


Lots of people don't know that a stock M96 engine in the 996 Carreras don't come close to 300 hp at the wheels. They're measured at the flywheel.












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Originally Posted by b3freak
I've seen the dynograph for the R40. I can't disclose the specifics, but it's a lot more rear wheel HP than 375.
NDA ?

Bizarre...
Old 03-13-2021, 04:58 PM
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I don't know of many, if any, manufacturers quoting their HP figures at the wheels. It's always at the crank. Bigger number sales more - marketing.

To me at least, numbers start to matter less and less as long as I'm getting the driving experience I want.
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
He says he wants to do it "right" this time.
But sounds like he is sticking with the LS swap, which I disagree, it's not the "right" way to do it.
That would involve having someone who knows what they're doing rebuild a flat 6 for it.
But the person I would want to send it to knows better than to touch this nightmare!
Tyler & David can certainly do it better(than the first time)...but "right"...I don't think so.
I couldn't agree more. If they really wanted to do it "right", then they'd put the proper 3.4L flat 6 engine back into the car and return it to its original glory, not make it an LS bastard child 911.
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Originally Posted by zbomb
NDA ?

Bizarre...
Why is that bizarre?

I'm not a client or costumer of Flat 6 Innovations. Jake Raby and I have mutual trust in our working relationship and I intend to honor that. No lawyers... no written contract... I shake the man's hand and give him my word that I'd honor his requests and protect the interests of his companies. I mean it, stand by it, and he knows it.
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So... let me get this straight. You can't share a HP number because you are looking to
Originally Posted by b3freak
protect the interests of his companies.
To me, that is bizarre... It's OK to say, "yeah its awesome, it makes more than XXX" but not OK to say, "IT MAKES XXX".

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Originally Posted by zbomb
NDA ?

Bizarre...
Bizarre is normal here.

While everyone else is busy touting power figures and bragging, we kick all their asses and have been for 15 years. To date I have never divulged a single power graph in public, in any capacity. I never will.
I do show these in our webinars with potential purchasers, and I shared all of them this past Thursday in our most recent FSI Engine Sales Webinar. In these groups I am able to research who is in attendance, and do a good job of ensuring they aren't plants from the copycats.

Its simple, if we posted the graphs, the copycats would just go take the time to find a graph somewhere that makes more power, then they'd lie and say that their engine makes that power.... The whole time they don't even have a dyno, or know the formula for horsepower. Been there, done that.

Also, the R- Series doesn't only have 4.0, 4.3 and 4.4L variants (R40, R43& R44) but each of these has a sub designation based on the combination and how it is being employed. As an example @808Bill lives on an island, where he doesn't;t need an 8,000 RPM+ capable engine. Due to this I used my R40.20 combination, which will give him the power that he NEEDS. This means the power graphs are variable, and are only a "suggestion" in every capacity.

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Old 03-13-2021, 05:34 PM
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I don't think there is a right or wrong way to build a car if you are using good parts and not putting something together that is dangerous in terms of driving. I am also willing to take a guess that an LS1 swapped 911 will bring or more views than a properly built 3.4. Let's also not forget where we are, for the most part, the ugly duckling of the 911 world. Where a whole swath of folks doesn't think anything after air cooled matters or our car are gross because of the looks.
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I don't see anyone posting dynographs.. Not in the puny M96 world at least.

It is however pretty standard fare in circles with more aftermarket support, and competition which frankly doesn't exist in the M96 world and while that's great for you, its too bad for the consumer. I'm not sure who you're so worried about... But with your following and your stated backlog, my opinion is you likely have very, very little to worry about and your customers, and prospective customers are loyal, I commend you for that.

It would be awesome, and I for one would love to see the graphs of the various iterations of engines you make and how you take into account the designed power band for a given application.

It's too bad for the community that participates in this forum that won't happen but you run your show how you want to and that's cool with me.


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