I bought the cheapest Porsche on Craigslist and the IMS bearing has failed.
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07-30-2019, 11:21 PM
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07-31-2019, 01:26 AM
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We call that "makin' metal". Looks like it's been going on for a while. Fairly sure it's the IMSB taken a dump all over the innards of your engine. I doubt the IMSB replacement at this point would do any good. Rebuild time for you.
07-31-2019, 01:34 AM
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Well, I hope I address everyone here, if I missed someone I apologize.
I've been looking for a well maintained example for over a year with no luck. Either the cars are falsely advertised as 'perfect' or they are perfect and the seller wants $35k firm.
I have about $10k to play with this year, probably another $10k or so next year.
No sir, I never said that I have no mechanical skill. I'm not a Master Mechanic, but I've been wrenching on my own rides since I was knee high to a grasshopper. I've been lurking on RL for years. I've never owned a Porsche before though, so this will be the biggest project I've ever taken on. I didn't see the need to pay for a PPI when I know the engine is bad.
I almost called the seller an idiot when he started it! I didn't ask him to, he took it upon himself.
Short term, I'd like to get it running quickly, probably with a new (used) engine. Long term, I'd like to rebuild the original engine, perhaps take the Knowledge Gruppe rebuild class.
Pics are uploaded in previous post, please let me know what you think.
I'm not willing to take the risk of completely destroying the original motor if I can avoid it, I'd like to rebuild it if possible.
That would be AMAZING, and you would be my new best friend 
As I mentioned above, I've been looking for a well maintained example for over a year with no luck. I knew rebuilding the engine wouldn't exactly be cheap, I'm hoping it can be done for less than $15k.
I'm not familiar with Hoovie's Garage, what is it?
Sell it (you payed to much) and start over. You're going to be in so deep you'll never get it back.
You can find a good well maintained driver for less then what this project will cost you...You might get lucky with a used motor but then you might not (another 6-10K flushed) and that motor could have issues.
You can find a good well maintained driver for less then what this project will cost you...You might get lucky with a used motor but then you might not (another 6-10K flushed) and that motor could have issues.
Short term, I'd like to get it running quickly, probably with a new (used) engine. Long term, I'd like to rebuild the original engine, perhaps take the Knowledge Gruppe rebuild class.
Like the advice to drop the sump versus just examining the filter, this would help confirm the extent of the damage. If for some reason, unbeknownst to anyone at this time, the cylinders are NOT suffering from scoring, then that may give the OP some new found options to save money especially if he's rebuilding it himself.
And now, for something completely different.
I know of two engines that had IMSB failure, but were caught in time, and the engine oil circuit was flushed, the IMSB was replaced, and the engine ran. This is not an endorsement, nor is it a plan for one to follow, just that 'catastrophic' and marginal failure are two different things.
How much would it cost to replace only the IMSB? couple hundred.
How long will it last? From 2-200-2000 miles. Maybe
YMMV, objects in mirror, pro driver closed course, contents have settled, and may cause **** leakage.
I know of two engines that had IMSB failure, but were caught in time, and the engine oil circuit was flushed, the IMSB was replaced, and the engine ran. This is not an endorsement, nor is it a plan for one to follow, just that 'catastrophic' and marginal failure are two different things.
How much would it cost to replace only the IMSB? couple hundred.
How long will it last? From 2-200-2000 miles. Maybe
YMMV, objects in mirror, pro driver closed course, contents have settled, and may cause **** leakage.
^^Thats probably on the high end of what it’s actually worth. How much did you research before you bought it? Do you realize to rebuild the engine properly (even if you do it yourself) is going to run in the $15k range? If you do, and you’re up for it, more power to you! 👍
I'm not familiar with Hoovie's Garage, what is it?
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07-31-2019, 07:21 AM
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Looking for a year, where? We see these cars in good shape all the time selling $17-$20K all day long.
Are those cracks in the oil pan?
Short term = Porsche short block.
Jakes rebuild class would be great if you have the time, special tools and space to do it. Rebuilds on the cheap will run about $13-$15K if I recall. Someone did a spread sheet with costs from various companies. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ebuild+options
There's a couple of good DIY rebuild threads to get familiar with, good luck and keep us posted.
Are those cracks in the oil pan?
Short term = Porsche short block.
Jakes rebuild class would be great if you have the time, special tools and space to do it. Rebuilds on the cheap will run about $13-$15K if I recall. Someone did a spread sheet with costs from various companies. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ebuild+options
There's a couple of good DIY rebuild threads to get familiar with, good luck and keep us posted.
07-31-2019, 07:33 AM
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However much he paid is how much he wanted to pay.
As for rebuilding, what have you got to lose? Tons of folks with tons of experience on here to help you along the way.
I hope you choose to rebuild and I get to follow. Always wanted to rebuild a Porsche motor. Just can't find the time to justify it.
As for rebuilding, what have you got to lose? Tons of folks with tons of experience on here to help you along the way.
I hope you choose to rebuild and I get to follow. Always wanted to rebuild a Porsche motor. Just can't find the time to justify it.
07-31-2019, 10:05 AM
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It actually looks like a light failure.. Still has to come all apart, have ultrasonic cleaning, and etc, but it certainly appears to have some good hope for a rebuild project.
With damage like this, the primary concern is collateral damage, and cleaning all the debris from ALL the components. Cleaning will take you as long as assembly in lots of cases.
FYI- The dates for the only M9X engine rebuild class of 2020 are being finalized now, likely it will be one of the last 2 weekends in January 2020. We are so busy here that I am having to forego classes to handle more of the workload of engine building, here at the training facility.
With damage like this, the primary concern is collateral damage, and cleaning all the debris from ALL the components. Cleaning will take you as long as assembly in lots of cases.
FYI- The dates for the only M9X engine rebuild class of 2020 are being finalized now, likely it will be one of the last 2 weekends in January 2020. We are so busy here that I am having to forego classes to handle more of the workload of engine building, here at the training facility.
07-31-2019, 10:25 AM
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With that type of sludge in the pan, it looks like that oil has been in there a long time. It also looks like regular oil, not synthetic. Did you get any maintenance records? That aside, good luck with your decision.
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07-31-2019, 10:47 AM
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07-31-2019, 12:03 PM
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I don't see any cracks, where do you see cracks?
However much he paid is how much he wanted to pay.
As for rebuilding, what have you got to lose? Tons of folks with tons of experience on here to help you along the way.
I hope you choose to rebuild and I get to follow. Always wanted to rebuild a Porsche motor. Just can't find the time to justify it.
As for rebuilding, what have you got to lose? Tons of folks with tons of experience on here to help you along the way.
I hope you choose to rebuild and I get to follow. Always wanted to rebuild a Porsche motor. Just can't find the time to justify it.
It actually looks like a light failure.. Still has to come all apart, have ultrasonic cleaning, and etc, but it certainly appears to have some good hope for a rebuild project.
With damage like this, the primary concern is collateral damage, and cleaning all the debris from ALL the components. Cleaning will take you as long as assembly in lots of cases.
With damage like this, the primary concern is collateral damage, and cleaning all the debris from ALL the components. Cleaning will take you as long as assembly in lots of cases.
No maintenance records other than what was reported to CarFax and AutoCheck
07-31-2019, 12:19 PM
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Notice the lines around the drain plug area.I had to do a triple take on the bike pic...