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Old 03-01-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave
Well put in logical words.
My 993 4s is a 37 K arctic silver on full black leather ROW no sunroof example.
You will get an excellent number for that combo.
Old 03-01-2023, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by XUR
While the bidding on that car jumped up a decent' amount at the end, I'm still not sure if that was a good sell. Maybe it is and an accident history has that much of a price impact. Or maybe the decals scared away another $10-$20k.

The reserve on that car from Pcarmarket must have been around $80-85k.

Here's another interesting comparison, a C2S that DIDN'T meet reserve on BaT at almost $130k and with 10k lower miles and no accidents: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ra-s-coupe-25/

With 73k miles on the clock that was all the money for that in this market!
Old 03-02-2023, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PRSWILL
You will get an excellent number for that combo.
An excellent number offset to a degree by the location in Hamburg?

Just an opinion, but I think if one feels BAT is the best place to list, the result may be more favorable if the car is imported first.
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Old 03-02-2023, 11:49 AM
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He can send the car to me and i'll manage the sale !
Old 03-02-2023, 12:23 PM
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Funny idea, anyone is welcome to inspect the car.
Old 03-02-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gbos1
With 73k miles on the clock that was all the money for that in this market!
funny it sold 2 mins after the auction for $13K more than the "all the money for that" price... but you're the valuation expert around here...thats a C2S not a C4S, always worth more

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An excellent number offset to a degree by the location in Hamburg?

Just an opinion, but I think if one feels BAT is the best place to list, the result may be more favorable if the car is imported first.
Definitely the only way to go, import it first get all the paperwork done then list it, result will be much better.
Old 03-04-2023, 10:19 AM
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[QUOTE=Tarek307;18662591]funny it sold 2 mins after the auction for $13K more than the "all the money for that" price... but you're the valuation expert around here...thats a C2S not a C4S, always worth more


Welp … always a sucker born each day in the car biz for sure ..but congrats nonetheless
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:41 AM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-4s-88/

36k-Mile 1996 Carrera 4S

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And this one is an interesting example of current market conditions...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...carrera-4s-90/

Bought in May of 2021 at $127k + fees
Sold in March of 2023 at $130k + fees (added about 2k miles)

Side note: Been following along pretty closely in the GT3 / RS for sale thread (I want one)...which is essentially the same type of content as this thread, yet no one ever chimes in with "valuation threads don't belong here" and it seems while asking prices are still inflated, there have been a number of RNM or cars sold at 10%-15% below original ask. What is interesting is that inventory availability is really low. Was tracking the market last summer and there were about 20 GT3 .1 or .2 available...today there's probably less than 7, maybe less than 5 with no issues, but that could be a seasonality factor?

Just did a quick scan of Autotrader for 993 C2S / C4S...inventory is low yet the dealer asking prices are, well...here's some of the highlights:

1998 C4S 45k miles...$200k ask...

1997 C4S 42k miles...$186k ask...

1997 C2S - 40k miles...$160k ask...but some sort of weird branded title recently?

We'll probably get a better gauge after that BaT auction closes.
Old 03-27-2023, 10:36 AM
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The red adervertised 993 is NOT a 993 4s, perpaps a C4

It's a NB car as visible in the only picture there is
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Old 03-27-2023, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave
The red adervertised 993 is NOT a 993 4s, perpaps a C4

It's a NB car as visible in the only picture there is
Yeah, that's just a stock picture - the actual car on offer is a black on black....with sport seats...nice!

WP0AA2996VS322183
Past sale...

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Old 03-27-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by My993_4s_Dave
The red adervertised 993 is NOT a 993 4s, perpaps a C4

It's a NB car as visible in the only picture there is
It is hard for me to tell a wide body by just the rear fenders. What other clues are there?
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^ Rocker panels
Old 03-27-2023, 12:01 PM
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The front, rocker panels, wide rear fenders.

This is my car, a 993 4s, the turbo spoiler is not stock for a regular 993 4s





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Originally Posted by Britzky9

Just did a quick scan of Autotrader for 993 C2S / C4S...inventory is low yet the dealer asking prices are, well...here's some of the highlights:

1998 C4S 45k miles...$200k ask...

1997 C4S 42k miles...$186k ask...
FYI both of these cars have been “for sale” forever. I looked into both four years ago when I was looking for mine. I was ready to fly to purchase the ‘98 car, which was on the showroom floor of a Buick dealership, but they were just not interested in selling the car. At the time it was priced about $10-$15k over market. The other one, the ‘97, would never answer email and was so vague on the phone I wasn’t sure there was an actual car.

Buyer beware on both imo.

Why they continue to advertise them for sale on Autotrader is beyond me.
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Old 03-27-2023, 12:53 PM
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I currently have a C4S for sale. Canadian car in Canada.

I'm an avid enthusiast, and not a dealer. Does anybody have any first hand experience on the costs associated with a US buyer of a Canadian car? For my education on helping international interest.

I took this from a recent BaT ad, where the car was Canadian:

"We recommend a budget of approx. 2.85% for duty and $1k-ish USD for incidentals, plus the cost of shipping to your destination for American buyers. Keep in mind your own state tax may apply.

Canadian buyers, budget the cost of shipping plus applicable sale tax(es) for your home province where the car will be titled. Please note this car is exempt from the Federal Luxury Tax (Canada)."


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