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Old 06-18-2020, 12:07 PM
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Now those are rocker panels!
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:53 PM
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Now those are rocker panels!
Gardening time, again and again
Old 06-19-2020, 07:57 AM
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That water must have been mighty cold. I have seen 993 and 964's that have sat outside unloved for 10 years that have far more rust. Amazing how much has survived. It is also amazing to see what it takes to straighten a tub like this. With a Cellette and the knowhow anything is possible but that is a lot of work.
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
That water must have been mighty cold. I have seen 993 and 964's that have sat outside unloved for 10 years that have far more rust. Amazing how much has survived. It is also amazing to see what it takes to straighten a tub like this. With a Cellette and the knowhow anything is possible but that is a lot of work.
The specialist of steel (I don't know how to name his specialization in english, maybe tinsmith?) at the coachbuilder shop has told me the steel is free from rust, he didnt find a single part of the car where the rust has attacked the steel, but only very few parts were rust is only on the surface of the material. With acqua-blasting we'll see much better where surface rust is located and they can work on a clean surface.
It is a true emotion seeing his ability while working, with such a care but also decise manners, so effective and full of knowledge. He showed me p, while removing panels, the places where welds with brass were used, using the torch to remove them.
Later I will post the video, I couldnt imagine such a thing like using brass weldings, very refined old technique, from what I could understand in the words of the tinsmith.


Final end of lid cable duct still very hot. It was welded with brass to the panel.


Between the cabin and the underline of rear quarter panel there is foam to seal the cockpit from gases or bad stuff or humidity


the end part of both side of rear quarter panel before the brass weld to be melt.

Thank you very much Cobalt, meanwhile engine heads are at the shop ready to be rebuilt.
They also have checked both the camshaft housings, i.e. their condition and reworked the mating surfaces: there is no probelm reusing them.
I finally decided to go for the standard hydraulic rocker arms, replacing the hydraulic part (INA).
In the end rosepassion sent the Mahle rings instead of Goetze.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:44 AM
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Just wanted to commend your efforts again undertaking this size project deserves constant encouragement
Rich

a 993 in a Speed Yellow I used to own



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Old 06-20-2020, 04:00 PM
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I am considering the option of installing a sequential gearbox instead of the G50 on my car.

What would be the options? I heard about Holinger and Ricardo as porsche gearbox suppliers for the cup cars. Is there the possibility to adapt it and install in the 993?
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I've not had a 993 in several years, and am an infrequent visitor. But here it is... the craziest thing I'll see all day. Good luck with your project.
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Originally Posted by nothingbutgt3
What yellow is that?
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
What yellow is that?
Paint To Sample
Limonengelb = Summer yellow
Old 06-22-2020, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nothingbutgt3
Paint To Sample
Limonengelb = Summer yellow
The reason I ask is that I've been trying to determine what color my racecar is, I've had it for 15 years now.

So thanks to you, I'm pretty sure it's Limonengelb - Summer Yellow.



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Old 06-22-2020, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
The reason I ask is that I've been trying to determine what color my racecar is, I've had it for 15 years now.

So thanks to you, I'm pretty sure it's Limonengelb - Summer Yellow.


Yes, it is: the colour was introduced back 1987 not only for the 911 models, but it has remained as option yellow color until 1989.
I saw few 964 in same colour, but I suppose it was PTS also for them.
For Porsche 3,2, 944 and 928 I think it was the yellow available as simple option, but I am not 100% sure.

It could be possible the car has been painted Pastel Yellow as well, they are only slightly different colors.

Nice track tool!
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Old 06-23-2020, 09:28 AM
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All is possible but don’t forget that a Good manual gearbox is able to drive you to the moon and return every holiday for many years , a sequential gearbox no
the costs are much higher than a manual box and I’m not sure the pleasure is higher......
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Originally Posted by cup997laurent
All is possible but don’t forget that a Good manual gearbox is able to drive you to the moon and return every holiday for many years , a sequential gearbox no
the costs are much higher than a manual box and I’m not sure the pleasure is higher......
I was observing the same, but my side is theory, your side is experience related.
Another important aspect is that an helicoidal gears gearbox with g50.32 gears would be better also in regards to originality, while straight teeth make a lot of noise inside the cockpit.
I think at this point there isn't another way to go than rebuilding it brand new.

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