Tobeit

yeah, +1 to what @ipse dixit said. My brain hurts trying to read these rambling posts. I wasted some precious time this morning I will never get back (I guess that what happens when weather is bad and I can’t take the 911 out for a nice cruise).

yrralis1

I didn’t write that video.

ipse dixit

No, I understood the video perfectly.

Your post that preceded it? Not so much.

B194HR

The 992.2 isn’t the flop of the week.
This thread is.

Everyone just needs to walk away from this one. I just came back from a one hour cruise, so I’m pretty clear headed writing this.

yrralis1

I’m the last person to watch Fox News. Hard to imagine that there are some issues on both sides of the political aisle that make my position non-partisan. I don’t check the little D or R under the name of the politician who picks the topic that I don’t agree with. This is the especially the case when it pertains to a different country.. The decisions of Porsche came from Europe and American politics have nothing to do with this. Last I checked a person could still buy a V8 Corvette or Mustang in this country . The effort made to derail this thread show how weak your argument really is. Attacking the poster rather than the topic or picking some offbeat portion to deflect is all I see. Anyone can watch the video in the first post. You don’t even have to read what I wrote. One also doesn’t have to read anything anyone else wrote because I can summarize it right here. They wrote nothing.. the video speaks for itself.

malba2366

Some rando on YouTube with 21k followers says it so it must be true.

Porsche could not have maintained gts power levels in the EU without needing a 400v system for the e turbo, at which point they may as well go full hybrid.

Tobeit

Now we are talking.. lets skip that part and we all just post some more videos to watch.

Jon70

I was a bit skeptical at first but the more I read about the GTS the more I like it. Looking forward to the reviews. I’m sure they will be impressive. If you price out a base to the same comparative spec for a GTS, it’s only about a 20k difference and the GTS has so much more included excluding the powertrain. I’m hoping to get one but don’t think there are any allocations as of yet.

CodyBigdog

My last comment on this thread….

Yes, “politics” played a part in the automotive direction and timeline used by manufacturers. So what? That’s true of almost everything. Federal and state “mandates”/regulations have been around a very long time. There’s nothing new about Government telling you what to do. The Government is suppose to work for us ALL….or at least the majority of people…and last time I looked, the vast majority of Americans want something done to address global warming…as they do about the rampant proliferation of guns (but that’s the subject for another forum)…or about immigration reform, etc.

As far as Porsche’s move to electrification of its cars, I’m 100% certain, like all business decisions, was motivated by several reasons, including political/legal mandates, as well as financial/economic survival. We all understand the political motivations…but the economic aspects of the decision is often overlooked. Case in point - in 2023, 25% of all new cars sold in germany were EV’s, and despite the slow-down in sales, EV sales are still increasing. People were not forced to buy these EV’s…they bought them for an assortment of reasons.. So, irrespective of the political mandates, if I’m the CEO of a car company, do I ignore the fact that an increasing number of consumers want EV’s, or do I listen to the conservatives that want us to forge ahead and continue making only ICE cars…and hope that one day, the company doesn’t find it’s self being left behind the EV revolution? To be clear, I’m not advocating an either/or solution. Lot of companies went out of business because they didn’t keep up with innovative trends that people wanted…look at what Amazon did to Sears and a lot of other brick and mortar companies.

As a former owner of a high tech company, I know you can’t continue to live off of prior accomplishments. Being conservative in business can lead to stagnation…and stagnation in any business is simply not good business practice. And that’s especially true in a highly dynamic sector, like EV’s.

It is projected that by 2026, EV’s will be cheaper to manufacturer (including the battery) than ICE cars. That’s good for consumers and for manufacturing profits. Charging infrastructure is still continuing to expand. Sold-state batteries that offer 500+ miles of range are already being tested by a number of companies, including Toyota. EV technologies are relatively new when compared to ICE…and look how far they’ve come in 10+ years. Sky is the limit.

But for conservatives (per the definition, is someone that resists change and innovation), such as yourself, resisting progress is part of who you are. But at age 66 (if memory serves me), you won’t be closed out from getting an ICE car anytime soon. Passing the State driver’s exam is likely to be the limit on your options. .

CodyBigdog

Funny you should mention that…my brother-in-law, when discussing politics/issues/policies….never actually says anything himself. It’s always some video from Faux/Facebook videos/etc

We’ve become a nation that no loner reads. It’s all about clicks.

yrralis1

Yet no comments on the video .
I see your have 16K posts yet not one pic of your car.
Are you planning on buying one of these compliance cars ?

yrralis1

What do you personally like about it ? We already know its faster . 718 was faster too but the 4 cylinder failed .Its an example of where faster is not necessarily better .
You also know the reviews will gush over it . Most auto journalists are monetized and their you tube channel makes $$ off clicks and likes .
They want too be invited to journalist day . Jason was granted an interview with a Porsche engineer so dont think for even one second that words are measured .

yrralis1

The EU mandates were voted down by the US . Hence the V8 still will exist .
You obviously dont know because you somehow cant look up what they wrote in black and white .
This condenses it for you . https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ed%20by%202032.

yrralis1

You attack him rather than discuss the points he made . Try that instead .

Tobeit

remember, you make your case in this thread based on a video you posted and asked us to not even worry what you wrote. Sooo..you are making knots in your arguments to no end.