kayjh

Great! One more allocation for others.

AlexCeres

I don’t know what strawman you refer to, but I don’t own any pdk cars, thanks. the title of this thread is ridiculous trolling. 25% of Porsche customers are not carrera S MT purchasers. That was 25% of all 911s in an article specifically about the gt3. It sucks that Porsche hasn’t announced more MT plans for the 992.2. It sucks the gts won’t be. It’s pretty cool the turbo … might be. The gt3 will be. Take some Valium. Wait for the T. Buy a 992.1. Try a cayman. Step up to a gt3. Lots of choices, no wrong answers.

But let’s not pretend Porsche is going to lose any appreciable amount of money because you don’t like those choices. It’s a new model generation. Of course they were going to squeeze you for more money. What ****ing marquee did you think this was ?

wingless

For those that read the linked article, not just part of the article title, the statistics it cites show that customer manual transmission specification is 70% on GT vehicles, while manual transmission specification is 25% on regular 911 models.

AlexCeres

lolz. I read the article. That 70% number was only for gt3 in the US. Worldwide it's 30% for gt3, and 25% overall. And yet. The gt3 will still be manual in 992.2 and Porsche isn't going to lose a single one of those customers. This whole thread is some trolling mixed with whining about being too poor to buy a gt3.

Jrezaf

It's pretty harsh to attribute their gripes to assumed socioeconomic limitations. Even if everyone had the means to acquire a GT3, I doubt people will be able get their manual cars as easily as it was in the past when they just put an order for an S. I think once (if?) Porsche comes out and says "You can still buy a manual on the S" the vast majority of the complaints will subside.

wingless

Personally, didn't want a GT vehicle, even if the dealership hadn't previously informed me that it would be impossible to get based on existing customers and their very limited allocation.

My (now dashed) hope had been on a loaded manual GTS Targa. When Porsche pulled the plug on that option, I again inquired about other manual transmission GT or S/T options and was again told not possible.

If I wanted an automatic transmission sports car, then I would have just selected a Corvette, with the benefit of saving a few bucks.

If the premises for the topic is wrong, what if any customers will NOT purchase a 911 because of manual transmission removal?

For me, this would have been an additional (not required) vehicle. I already have a GORGEOUS old 911 Targa that I enjoy. I would have either had to add another garage lift or sell that vehicle to get another Porsche.

Scorponok

I’m fairly certain we will be seeing the return of the manual transmission on some models in 2025. Porsche knows its importance and won’t make the same mistake it did with the 991.1 GT3 again (for as long as they are able to).

NYG1121

my prediction is that the S and 4S will have the manual option

various cheeses

Off the top of my head, the only manual hybrid vehicle I can think of is the Honda CR-Z.

Master Deep

Problem is, there are no other new manual sports cars that compete with th 911. I don’t think the Emira or M3/4 or Blackwings are even close. Aston dropped their manual too. So customers won’t have a choice other than paying up for the GT3 with ADM or other future higher end products to get a manual. Otherwise there are tons of used manual cars out if you don’t need a new car. Porsche may lose some prospective buyers but likely less than 5%. And they’ll fill that easily with people new to the brand.

johnarpy

I think the premise that buying a Porsche manual is a choice between it and another brand may not be quite accurate. For many of us it is not. I currently have 5 Porsches, 2014 911 Carrera manual, 2019 911 Carrera PDK, 2019 Speedster manual, 2024 GT3 manual and a 2023 Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo S. Clearly I love manuals, but more clearly, I'm sold on Porsche as a sports car which is my primary consideration in my purchase. Many of the other cars mentioned may be very good cars but I wouldn't even consider say a Miata or a Corvette. I'm not dissing those cars, they just would never come under consideration for me.

Airbus Gangster

If you think money is the only thing preventing people from getting a gt3 I have some bad news for you bud.

AlexCeres

it really is. Capitalism is amazing. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...startYear=2020

3uros

Yeah, probably just the GT cars and slight chance in one Carrera. The Euro emission standards are an entirely different playing field going into the late 2020s. It isn't 2015 and Porsche has to act accordingly.

Airbus Gangster

I thought we were talking about allocations for a build. Not the used market. You can literally get any car on the used market. So the original post was quite redundant and pointless if that is all you were pointing out.