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Old 06-20-2024, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
Boxster/Cayman were mid engine roadsters . Now it's a golf cart .
Each to their own.
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I've been considering a Cayman 4.0 manual at some point in the near future but have no interest what so ever in a full BEV, forget about that. The mild hybrid 992.2 appears to be a much more appealing vehicle.
Pretty sure that the majority of the Porsche world is not looking for a pig heavy, EV, sports car with limited range. I can see these selling out of the gate to a small audience and then falling on its face like so many other EVs.

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Originally Posted by Hunky
I've been considering a Cayman 4.0 manual at some point in the near future but have no interest what so ever in a full BEV, forget about that. The mild hybrid 992.2 appears to be a much more appealing vehicle.
Pretty sure that the majority of the Porsche world is not looking for a pig heavy, EV, sports car with limited range. I can see these selling out of the gate to a small audience and then falling on its face like so many other EVs.
Pretty much what was said about the 911 back in 1963.
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Originally Posted by aggie57
Pretty much what was said about the 911 back in 1963.
Really? EV Cayman will be very heavy and powerfull while the original 911s were light and underpowered(128HP). Not sure what you are saying or comparing here. EVs are just fine and dandy if that is what you are looking to purchase. Hope that the Cayman EV works out for you if that is the path you are pursuing.

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From the press release, 2 of the 3 cars are red (base Carrera and Targa GTS):
Base does not count . It has always been seen in a variety of colors . GTS coupe and even SUVs and Panamera were carmine all the way back to 2008 (cayenne GTS Super Bowl ad launch ) . The .1 was done in Carmine but the cps at the ,media event are mostly gone (python , lava ) .
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I do not have high hopes for Cayman EV.

And I say this as someone who really enjoys tracking the Taycan and look forward to my track day with the Ioniq 5N
As you enjoy tracking the EV Taycan, what’s your issue with a lighter, more nimble EV Cayman? (Genuine question, not being snarky)
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If the EV cayman hits the supposed target weight of 3600 pounds and it has dual motors so it can torque vector then it's probably going to be absolutely magical in the handling department. But you can't escape that soul crushing whine of electricity as you accelerate. Maybe if they made it completely silent, I could be OK with driving one.
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Originally Posted by BondJ
As you enjoy tracking the EV Taycan, what’s your issue with a lighter, more nimble EV Cayman? (Genuine question, not being snarky)
I think I may have been too glib.

I have nothing against an EV sportscar, esp. one that is lighter and mid-motored.

I just think there isn't real significant demand for a 2-seater EV sportscar amongst the Porsche hoi polloi, or just hoi polloi at large.

No doubt there is a segment here Rennlist (myself included) that would be very interested, if not at least curious, with an EV Cayman, but I can't imagine too many people outside of Rennlist even care.

Heck, the ICE Cayman/Boxster (outside of the GTS 4.0 and GT4/RS) is like the fake parsley you get on a steak dinner. Sort of pushed aside so you can get to the good stuff.

What will the EV Cayman be like? The gristle from the beef?
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit

What will the EV Cayman be like? The gristle from the beef?
It will be more like a 911. given Porsche's trajectory, it's going to be more refined and more isolated just like the 992 and it will be all electric and will probably handle really well with some technology assistance
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Originally Posted by VarTheVar
It will be more like a 911. given Porsche's trajectory, it's going to be more refined and more isolated just like the 992 and it will be all electric and will probably handle really well with some technology assistance
I have no doubt it will drive and handle well.

I am commenting on the demand for such a vehicle. Not its engineering wherewithal.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I have no doubt it will drive and handle well.

I am commenting on the demand for such a vehicle. Not its engineering wherewithal.

Oh I'm sure it will be very high. It's going to be the first electric sports car on the market (not hypercar, not tesla roadster (trash))
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Originally Posted by VarTheVar
Oh I'm sure it will be very high. It's going to be the first electric sports car on the market (not hypercar, not tesla roadster (trash))
only if it beats the MG Cyberster to market.
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in other news, Buggati - also in the VW conglomerate - just announced the 4.4M Bugatti Tourbillon. 1800hp plug-in hybrid with 1000hp coming from a naturally aspirated 16-cylinder and 800hp from 3 e-motors. They took out the turbo's to enhance the experience of the ICE but added a whooping 800(e)hp to more than compensate for that. wow.
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Originally Posted by Mike818
only if it beats the MG Cyberster to market.
Oh yes, the MG Cyberster. The car we've all been waiting for. Is it going to be made out of wood like a Morgan? lol
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Originally Posted by VarTheVar
Oh yes, the MG Cyberster. The car we've all been waiting for. Is it going to be made out of wood like a Morgan? lol
What ever it takes to get the weight down

Joking aside MG is now owned by a Chinese automaker, so hopefully they bring their A game and we get a decent benchmark for the first EV sports car.


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