ipse dixit

melhechi

This guy is amazing.

Hopefully, some of the so-called engineers on this forum will actually listen to real engineering for once and realize how incredible the new 992.2 hybrid engine is. Instead of the nonsense cluttering their brains, which they insist on forcing on the rest of us.

yrralis1

Its an impressive explanation but it's not totally complete without knowing the real world maintenance of such a complex engine . It also doesn't touch upon whether the exhaust sound (important aspect of driving ) is muted and detracts from the visceral enjoyment of the car . Also keep in mind that Jason is monetized by his you tube channel . In 2017 he was making approx 160K a year from the channel and that clearly has grown . Expect to see many more you tube videos of praise because thats how they earn a living ,
https://nairobiwire.com/2017/02/engi...this%20channel.

That said , there is no doubt that Porsche threw the kitchen sink at this engine , They did it even more with the Taycan and it surely was not exempt from issues . In fact he made a video pointing out the inefficiency of the Taycan yet also left open a positive spin which he followed up with a second video. With his taycan he did not talk about the maintenance nor did he touch ups how quickly the engine could evolve . Note ..in his Taycan video he referenced and included a Mustang Shelby Gt to portray a heavy ICE car , fast forward to today that Mustang engine is current enough and has not evolved nearly as much as the upcoming Taycan .

I enjoyed the video. I like what he said but it's the things he does not say that I am also interested in .

rasetsu

He even covers those kinds of brains at the 12:27 mark. :P
The fewer in line for one of these, the better it is for me.

Jeff Whitten

I have enjoyed his videos. Sometimes gets a bit deep for me on the technical end, but that’s his value.

Only time will tell on maintenance. Think it’s likely they will keep the same maintenance intervals and have tested extensively to that level. But real world experience and potential challenges will come out as these new hybrid cars get some miles with customers. Watching with interest.

jhenson29

I’m pretty sure my Taycan requires way less maintenance than my 992.1 GTS. My 911 has had 4 regular service visits. In about the same miles (both over 30k), my Taycan has only had 1.

ipse dixit

You make it seem like complexity is a bad thing. News flash. Every new Porsche engine has been more “complex” than the its predecessor, and we all survived to tell about it.

And every new Porsche has required less (or the same amount of) maintenance than its predecessor. In fact, modern water cooled 911s require less standard maintenance than their air cooled brethren.

As to sound? Every 911 sounds like ****, it’s just the nature of the flat six and the fact that the engine is way out in the back so close to the exhaust. The only 911s that sound decent are the GT cars, and even those sound like broken dump trucks below 4K RPM.

And to say Jason is somehow biased because he’s monetizing his YouTube videos is the typical desperate grabbing at those proverbial straws. Hate to break it to you but very YouTuber is monetizing their content. It’s just the way the world works. So it’s not just irrelevant but a complete red herring.

If you don’t like Porsche’s foray into hybrid tech, that’s ok. But don’t use straw man arguments. It’s just a bad look.

division

Of course the latest iteration is "better" than the previous version and even if it was the best Porsche to date, the lack of a manual transmission is a deal breaker. So many other cars to choose from if you are happy driving an automatic.

dudeoverthere

what on the T-hybrid would require more maintenance?

AlexCeres

such good content. And a wonderful explanation of lambda 1 and the misreporting of the boost

rasetsu

It's an ironic concern given that it has fewer mechanical parts. No more drive belts, no more wastegate, one fewer turbocharger unit. It's got an extra battery that will likely not be cheap come time for replacement but it sits where the current AGM battery sits so not like it's going to require a serious amount of labor.

Mike818

First ever automotive use of a turbo charger / electric supercharger / gas turbine generator all rolled into one? I'm interested to see how that plays out.

Tuners are probably going to need a PhD.

johnohara

It's not the "technology" it's the new system. The PDK coupled Electric Motor, the E-Turbo, the 400v system. the software that runs the system and the lack of soak time to mature all of the above.

In short, The idea will be fine, but this is a complex piece of software. and the new parts plus the system need to mature. How long ? My guess, probably 2 model years, not 1 and definitely not 0.

If you buy the new 2025 GTS I absolutely predict you will drive a loaner more than I do in my 2023 992.1 GTS.

I learned my lesson with the BMW N63 ... Never buy the first year or two of a big change

Also I found the video a little annoying, esp the embedded toothbrush advertisement.

Ksdaoski

My take away on the engine, it's running less PSI and it's running with less fuel than the 3.0l. Which sounds like there's an opportunity to enrich the fuel and increase the PSI and have big horsepower increases.

drcollie

This is nothing new for Porsche, its race track tested its hybrid in the 919 and that was over a decade ago under far more severe conditions than any street car will be subject to. They are also not going to cook their Golden Goose, the 911, which is their most profitable platform. The car will be just fine, us old-timers have seen this with every generation (I started driving 911's when I was 24, and I'm 70 now). "Oh! They've screwed it up now!" they would all say - same as the BMW Crowd when the 2002 was shoved aside. Yes, Porsche kinda messed up with the '99 996, and the IMS bearing and focusing too much on wind tunnel sleekness forgetting it's customers want phat ***** but they remedied that platform quickly enough with the must better 997 in 2005.

It's going to sound like a UPS truck, look at the unequal length headers! add in turbos and yeah - probably won't impress. Get a Ferrari V12 with a Capristo exhaust if you want a delicious noisemaker (don't complain about the maintenance or how impossible it is to resell).

People are going to buy every one they make. You'll see.