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Bet a lot of people are waiting for S , me one of them lol
It is 510bhp and hybrid so I I am not sure how much difference there would be price wise to the GTS.
With the 992.1 if you specced many options for the S and these included sports design and sports exhaust the S was very close in price to the GTS.
I am trying to confirm again the specs of the S and I really hope my initial info is wrong regarding the hybrid part but unfortunately this is probably just hope since the info is quite solid.
I can only hope the .2 haters stay the course. Maybe it will help for my allocation.
But the problem is that most haters are the RL members which does not matter.
I am speculating but I think the reviews will he great based on the fact that the car is faster and the technology is the “future” and is state of the art.
And even then I think most customers might not even be reading the reviews.
Then you have the price but then again the demand for the turbo s was still high so does it matter that much?
We will see but I think in general people will still want to buy a 911 and it will still be their dream car.
Last edited by silversurfer6; Jun 1, 2024 at 01:29 AM.
We will see but I think in general people will still want to buy a 911 and it will still be their dream car.
Agree. Even with GTS prices topping $200K, what other car is available for similar money that is as refined and fun as a 911? There are certainly competing models, but is there any alternatives that one could argue is truly better?
Agree. Even with GTS prices topping $200K, what other car is available for similar money that is as refined and fun as a 911? There are certainly competing models, but is there any alternatives that one could argue is truly better?
The Artura is considerably better, and reasonably spec’s $100K more. The 296 similarly is $200K more.
so, no, I don’t expect competitors in the same price class to fare well
It's really hard to daily a Mclaren Super Series car (i.e. 720s, 765LT, etc.)
And I say this as someone how has daily'd a 991 GT3, 991.2 GT3 RS.
Between the carbon tub with its high sill making egress/ingress a near substitute for your daily yoga session, to the dihedral doors, to the lack of a storage (no back seats, or even a back seat area) any Super Series Mclaren is not an ideal daily.
Artura might be different, haven't had a chance to daily one, though.
A 296, one can absolutely daily, but then it's easily 2x the price of a 992.2 911 (of any trim level)
I think the model to get will actually be the new Carrera 4. It looks like it will not be in the line-up for 2025, but I assume it would be available for 2026. The base Carrera now has larger brakes, the turbos from the 992.1 GTS, and the intercooler from the 992.1 Turbo. The new 992.2 base Carrera should be as tunable as the old 992.1 S car, probably close to 600hp. The Carrera 4 has the added benefit of the limited slip differential (LSP) for the rear wheels and AWD to better put down the high power, pull through corners, and drive in icy / snowy conditions. It will still not have the manual available though.
The new Carrera T (RWD only) would seem like it might be a better opinion still, but it has limited interior options and they removed some of the sound deadening.
The new Carrera S / 4S might still be the best choice, we will have to wait and see what they come out with.
The new Carrera GTS is very expensive now, has many undesirable (IMO) options like PDCC as standard, removed sound deading, making everything black, harsher ride, standard sports exhaust, and center lock wheels.
The rumored new RWD Turbo manual sounds very interesting, but it also sounds like it will be something that is in high demand and will difficult to get. Also since it is a Turbo it will be expensive. Still it might end up being the best choice. I really hope it will look good, I don't care for the active aero vents on the GTS.
Do you have info in regards to when the base Targa 4 will be released?
Thx
Agree. Even with GTS prices topping $200K, what other car is available for similar money that is as refined and fun as a 911? There are certainly competing models, but is there any alternatives that one could argue is truly better?
Folks that will top 200K configuring a 992.2 GTS, will likely be there with a 992.1 as well. I spec’d a 992.2 as close as I could to my 992.1, and I ended up around $7K over ($181.5K vs $174.5K). And, I get additional equipment that I did not spec on my .1, such as RWS and ACC. Reason for the lower price difference, are things like alcantara roof liner, A-pillars and sunvisors are now standard, and I paid for that on my .1.
I can only hope the .2 haters stay the course. Maybe it will help for my allocation.
Don't count on it. There's always considerable pushback when a new 911 generation or mid-cycle refresh is introduced. It almost always dissipates, and often pretty quickly. With perhaps the exception of the 996. Even the 964 became one of the most beloved iterations over time. A lot of people struggle with change, but time heals much of it.
Folks that will top 200K configuring a 992.2 GTS, will likely be there with a 992.1 as well. I spec’d a 992.2 as close as I could to my 992.1, and I ended up around $7K over ($181.5K vs $174.5K). And, I get additional equipment that I did not spec on my .1, such as RWS and ACC. Reason for the lower price difference, are things like alcantara roof liner, A-pillars and sunvisors are now standard, and I paid for that on my .1.
Generally agree…..but RL is skewed towards the enthusiast and some, like me, purchase with a minimalist philosophy towards options and cost because we prefer a lighter weight sports car as opposed to GTs. The only T, S and GTS I would spec would be a stripper with MT considering only performance enhancing options. One of my personal issues with the GTS is it comes with weight adding options I do not want and do not want to pay for (RWS, PDCC, alcantara, etc.).
Generally agree…..but RL is skewed towards the enthusiast and some, like me, purchase with a minimalist philosophy towards options and cost because we prefer a lighter weight sports car as opposed to GTs. The only T, S and GTS I would spec would be a stripper with MT considering only performance enhancing options. One of my personal issues with the GTS is it comes with weight adding options I do not want and do not want to pay for (RWS, PDCC, alcantara, etc.).
JFYI, mine has been spec’d this way and with a similar philosophy (7MT, carbon buckets, rear seat delete, Aerokit, FAL, and a couple options for the interior to make it a nicer place to be). I recently weighed my GTS on my corner scales, and it came out to 3310lbs with a full tank of gas.
I think enthusiasts can enjoy a nice sound system, and a slightly special feeling interior
