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Old 05-28-2024, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by M-Pilot
It's not easy to read and note every little detail covered in 150+ pages but I did in fact read every single page in this thread. This is actually the only Rennlist thread that I follow closely every single day but I must have missed the news about the T (note that I'm looking for actual news, not rumors). So far I only read rumors about S and T being available later next year but haven't seen any official statement from Porsche.
Check out this thread for speculation that includes the S. The T seems pretty much unknown right now.

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1413...l#post19463248
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Old 05-28-2024, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tobeit
was wondering about that as I was missing the intake opening in the lower rear bumber of the base bumper....?!


Old 05-28-2024, 06:21 PM
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Old 05-28-2024, 06:33 PM
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The tach is pretty meh. Looks generic. Does it have any foundation from Porsche racing in terms of appearance ?
Old 05-28-2024, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
M Engineering sells Stage 2 tunes for 992.1S and 992.1 GTS with MT’s. Per M Engineering, the factory OEM dry clutch on the 992.1 with MT is good up to 660 ft. Lbs. torque. I know because I sent them a e mail and asked that exact question. The Sports Classic was built on the TT platform which has 572 hp and 553 ft. Lb. Torque. The TTS platform has 640 hp and 590 ft. Lb. Torque. If a 992.2 TT is ultimately offered RWD with MT, offering a special edition Sport Classic on the TT platform to test the market will be Porsche marketing genius and greatly increase demand for the TT vehicle.
The Sport Classic may be built on the TTS platform, but it’s downtuned to 442 pound feet in this car. The amount a tuner is comfortable putting through a component also isn’t the same as the amount Porsche and their suppliers are comfortable covering under warranty.

I don’t see any practical reason to limit torque (and therefore power) other than to preserve the less durable transmission. I also strongly suspect emissions/fuel economy prevented them from using the 6 speed, which should be good for 516 pound feet if it’s still the same basic box from the Mezger days.

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Old 05-28-2024, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by westsiderkg01
Black and white are the only 2 non added cost color options now??? wth????
There's already way too many black/white cars out there. This is not going to help!
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Old 05-28-2024, 06:39 PM
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I was wondering why they raised the price on the Chrono dial but it's because they bundled a digital dial color to it


Old 05-28-2024, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sk911

If I have to guess, it probably vented out in the middle indentation between the 2 exhaust tip (below the license plate) . That area appears to be fairly deep enough to hide vent(s)




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Old 05-28-2024, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by J Irwan
If I have to guess, it probably vented out in the middle indentation between the 2 exhaust tip (below the license plate) . That area appears to be fairly deep enough to hide vent(s)

That makes sense given the placement of the larger single intercooler.
Old 05-28-2024, 06:58 PM
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As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
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Old 05-28-2024, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
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Old 05-28-2024, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now:

1) If you want a manual put a deposit for a GT3 or the (RWD) Turbo (non S)

2) Carrera S is a T-Hybrid and outputs 510bhp. I think it uses the 3.0L but I will confirm.

Let’s hope there will be more surprises soon but it will not be for cars to be produced in the next 12 months.
you don’t think the Carrera S will be a detuned T-Hybrid using the same 3.6L format ?

Old 05-28-2024, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
The Sport Classic may be built on the TTS platform, but it’s downtuned to 442 pound feet in this car. The amount a tuner is comfortable putting through a component also isn’t the same as the amount Porsche and their suppliers are comfortable covering under warranty.

I don’t see any practical reason to limit torque (and therefore power) other than to preserve the less durable transmission. I also strongly suspect emissions/fuel economy prevented them from using the 6 speed, which should be good for 516 pound feet if it’s still the same basic box from the Mezger days.
We will know soon enough if silversurfer6 is correct. His 992.2 GTS comments were spot on. It is the exact same 7 speed gear box used in the PDK.

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Old 05-28-2024, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pats911
Would they really pair the hybrid system with the 3.0? My understanding of the press material was that the new base car gets the higher boost and permanently stoichiometric fuel ratio but none of the hybrid stuff. Maybe I misinterpreted but I took everything they’re saying to mean the 3.0 will be distinct from the hybrid system, which seems tightly integrated with the 3.6 architecture.
I can't see how they can develop the 3.0 with the eTurbo and everything else, when they can mass produce the 3.6 engine now. That would be a lot of development costs to support two engine platforms with this technology.

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Old 05-28-2024, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
We will know soon enough if silversurfer6 is correct. His 992.2 GTS comments were spot on. It is the exact same 7 speed gear box used in the PDK.
That wasn’t a reply to a comment from silversurfer6… did I miss something?

Edit: It’s also not the exact same box. The case, I believe, is the same, but the internals are obviously different given the different anatomy of the transmissions. I understand that the case itself is usually the weak link due to lateral forces caused by helical gears, but, again, I see no other practical purpose to limiting torque by such a massive degree.

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