Marcha

No more manual Targas then. Ever. Wow. Feels good to have an extinct Dodo.

A Nonce

Thats a very good point. The new Porsche bean counters are for sure going to extract as much $$$ as possible and this gap in pricing will be filled in.

My guess that the new 992.2 S which will hopefully be introduced in Q4 will have:

* Same engine/tuning as the 992.1 GTS
* Brakes from the 992.1 GTS
* Manual (I hope)

My guess is that the 992.2 Carrera T will still survive but will be a late in the 2028 cycle, near the end of the 992.2 production run.

aggie57

I was told the earth is flat

Marcha

There will be no S. The S has been dropped altogether. That’s what we are being told in the UK market.

Ksdaoski

Per
@silversurfer6

May 2024

Base Carrera and Carrera 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet and C4 in Targa
Displacement: 3.0L
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: Around 400
No Manual Option

GTS and GTS 4 in Coupe, Cabriolet, and Targa
Displacement: 3.6L
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbo: 1 x BW eturbo - not double confirmed
Power: 541
Torque: 619Nm
No Manual Option

August 2024
A Special Edition Turbo S (992.1)

October 2024 or same date Dec24/Jan25 as Carrera S
GT3 and GT3 Touring
Displacement: 4.0L - Not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: No
Power: 520 - Not double confirmed
Manual Option

A Special Edition GTS Cabriolet (Probably because this year is the 70th Anniversary of the 1954 Speedster model) - not double confirmed

January 2025 (or Dec 2024)
Carrera S and Carrera 4S in Coupe, Cabriolet and Targa
Displacement: 3.0L - not double confirmed
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Power: 510
No Manual Option

Turbo S Coupe and Cabriolet
Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
Turbos: 2 x BG eturbo - not double confirmed
Bhp: 710 - Not double confirmed
No Manual Option

Turbo - should launch with Turbo S not confirmed
Not a numbered edition
Hybrid Assistance: No
RWD
Manual Option: Yes

Jockey

The people thinking the S will have a manual are just clinging to hope at this point.

A Nonce

I cleaned this up & added the Carrera T being offered in manual near the end of the 992.2 production run as is tradition:

I hope you are wrong, this indicates that manual will be a premium offering in Porsches 911 lineup.

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**Rumored Timeline **

May 2024 aka "now"

• Base Carrera and Carrera 4 (Coupe, Cabriolet, Targa)
  - Displacement: 3.0L
  - Hybrid Assistance: No
  - Power: Around 400
  - Manual Option: No
• GTS and GTS 4 (Coupe, Cabriolet, Targa)
  - Displacement: 3.6L
  - Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
  - Turbo: 1 x BW eturbo (not double confirmed)
  - Power: 541
  - Torque: 619 Nm
  - Manual Option: No

August 2024

• Special Edition Turbo S (992.1)
  - Manual Option: Maybe

October 2024 (or Dec 2024/Jan 2025)

• GT3 and GT3 Touring
  - Displacement: 4.0L (not double confirmed)
  - Hybrid Assistance: No
  - Power: 520 (not double confirmed)
  - Manual Option: Yes
• Special Edition GTS Cabriolet
  - Commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the 1954 Speedster model (not double confirmed)
  - Manual Option: No

January 2025 (or Dec 2024)

• Carrera S and Carrera 4S (Coupe, Cabriolet, Targa)
  - Displacement: 3.0L (not double confirmed)
  - Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
  - Power: 510
  - Manual Option: No
• Turbo S Coupe and Cabriolet
  - Hybrid Assistance: T-HUB
  - Turbos: 2 x BG eturbo (not double confirmed)
  - Power: 710 bhp (not double confirmed)
  - Manual Option: No
• Turbo
  - Launching with Turbo S (not confirmed)
  - Hybrid Assistance: No
  - RWD
  - Manual Option: No

May 2027

• Carrera T (1 year before expected 994 announcement)
  - Displacement: 3.0L
  - Hybrid Assistance: No
  - Power: Around 400
  - Manual Option: Yes

Ksdaoski

Yeah I was referencing the guy above that said there will be no S at all....
@Marcha

TurboJake

Hate to say it but from a business perspective, introducing a manual only at the Turbo, GT, and T trims does make sense.

I’ve read the take rate for the manual is at or below 5%. Yet, that market of enthusiasts are the ones who are generally more invested and willing to pay more. So, Porsche is going to tie them to expensive models (Turbo, GT) or more limited models near end of production (T).

This way they don’t have to mix parts during most of production, they force the enthusiast to take a much more expensive car if they want the manual (Turbo, GT), and they boost sales near end of production (T).

In reality, their sales numbers continue to grow because 95% of people will take the faster and more powerful S/GTS variants while the rest of the 5% will either upgrade to the Turbo/GT if they are financially able to, or will wait for the T and grab it as soon as they can.

I really hope I’m wrong…

nyca

If the S uses the THEV system, it can't have a manual.

alaris

510 hp from the S makes less than no sense if the GT3 is at 520 and the GTS is at 540. Y’all are just making stuff up at this point.

Marcha

And how is your totally fabricated timeline of rumours based on zero actual facts or company announcements more accurate than a contradictory rumour that there will be no S at all.
Nobody will know that level of detail that you posted at this stage. It’s just nonsense.

Ksdaoski

Lol. It's not my timeline. It's a guy that's been historically correct.

silversurfer6

We will see but for now it is confirmed that S is a hybrid with 510bhp. Actually this info is from september 2023 if you search a bit.

nyca

Well if the S is a hybrid, how can it have a manual? Look at the drawings of how the electric motor is integrated into the driveline with the PDK - how are you going to deliver that with a manual?

The only way the S is a manual is - they drop the electric assist motor. Just run the eTurbo unit in the S, it essentially "detunes" itself without the electric assist motor, uses the "regular" PDK, and can therefore be delivered with a manual also.