Just venting - ADM
06-28-2022, 04:01 PM
#46
Are there “well known” dealers that sell only at MSRP.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
06-28-2022, 04:07 PM
#47
Are there “well known” dealers that sell only at MSRP.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
In other words, if you have to ask...
06-28-2022, 04:23 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
The Penske dealers theoretically do not markup past MSRP. However, I do not know if they are willing to sell to out of state/area customers.
FWIW, I picked up a Macan GTS at MSRP with no prior relationship at a time when GTS models were getting 7-10k ADM. They will continue to get my business based on their "goodwill".
FWIW, I picked up a Macan GTS at MSRP with no prior relationship at a time when GTS models were getting 7-10k ADM. They will continue to get my business based on their "goodwill".
Last edited by chong0; 06-28-2022 at 04:24 PM.
06-28-2022, 04:38 PM
#49
Intermediate
The Penske dealers theoretically do not markup past MSRP. However, I do not know if they are willing to sell to out of state/area customers.
FWIW, I picked up a Macan GTS at MSRP with no prior relationship at a time when GTS models were getting 7-10k ADM. They will continue to get my business based on their "goodwill".
FWIW, I picked up a Macan GTS at MSRP with no prior relationship at a time when GTS models were getting 7-10k ADM. They will continue to get my business based on their "goodwill".
06-28-2022, 04:40 PM
#50
Rennlist Member
06-28-2022, 04:41 PM
#51
Race Director
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.[/QUOTE]
So true. Things may slow a bit but we not falling off a cliff
So true. Things may slow a bit but we not falling off a cliff
06-28-2022, 05:39 PM
#52
Intermediate
06-28-2022, 08:04 PM
#53
Drifting
Are there “well known” dealers that sell only at MSRP.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
Last edited by nyca; 06-28-2022 at 08:05 PM.
06-28-2022, 08:14 PM
#54
Rennlist Member
I think that’s very cool. I like your resolve. It just means you’re not going to have a new Porsche anytime soon. Especially in Florida because as a person that practically called the entire United States looking for a turbo S I can say with absolute confidence the highest ADMs were right here in our beloved freedom loving state. The worst being the Dealer in Orlando had a cool $125,000 over retail for their TurboS’s. What kills me in all this is since the economy is definitely crashing you would think this practice would discontinue however as many people noted the part shortage is not getting better anytime soon and that after all is the leading driver in this along with the great economy that we had before. Also I don’t wanna disappoint anyone but most luxury brands have ADMs right now. Sorry. But I think Porsche is the worst. Of course I didn’t check McLaren or Ferrari or Lamborghini. Lol
06-28-2022, 08:51 PM
#56
Rennlist Member
I think that’s very cool. I like your resolve. It just means you’re not going to have a new Porsche anytime soon. Especially in Florida because as a person that practically called the entire United States looking for a turbo S I can say with absolute confidence the highest ADMs were right here in our beloved freedom loving state. The worst being the Dealer in Orlando had a cool $125,000 over retail for their TurboS’s. What kills me in all this is since the economy is definitely crashing you would think this practice would discontinue however as many people noted the part shortage is not getting better anytime soon and that after all is the leading driver in this along with the great economy that we had before. Also I don’t wanna disappoint anyone but most luxury brands have ADMs right now. Sorry. But I think Porsche is the worst. Of course I didn’t check McLaren or Ferrari or Lamborghini. Lol
06-28-2022, 10:14 PM
#57
Race Car
Are there “well known” dealers that sell only at MSRP.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
Really tired of this waiting game and with new price increases, MSRP is worthless anyway.
The prices will only fall when labor markets start to deteriorate - right now there is still huge shortage of workers in most industries.
At this point it has become a matter of principle with me. Not going to overpay. (Turbo S here too btw)
06-28-2022, 10:22 PM
#58
Rennlist Member
Chalk me up to being tired of the b.s. as well. Prices fluctuate wildly across the U.S. They have free reign. It's an auction house. Didn't use to be that way. It used to be "Car is $240k sticker"...period. Not "welcome to our auction house, highest bidder only!!" It's f* brutal and I think some folks will remember this down the line. If there was any loyalty anymore it's been cut 50% minimum.
At this point it has become a matter of principle with me. Not going to overpay. (Turbo S here too btw)
At this point it has become a matter of principle with me. Not going to overpay. (Turbo S here too btw)
06-28-2022, 10:52 PM
#59
I guess because its their money and it makes it personal. Some of these purchases might be a bit of a stretch especially for the lower trim levels, so an extra 25-50k might make a difference. I dont see a problem with waiting this craziness out or buying in this market if you are so inclined. Everyone has their opinion and that is what makes this country great. If we all thought alike we would be China or North Korea.
Last edited by raaizin; 06-28-2022 at 10:56 PM.
06-28-2022, 11:12 PM
#60
Race Car
Your trade is $20k better than it used to be? Great! Now we'll mark up the new one by $100k. It's garbage. There is absolutely zero science to it, which isn't the case when the MSRP is computed.
Kinda like Fran Drescher's voice.