992 GTS Discussion
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The LWBs just make the car look so damn sexy.
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fractionofawhole (06-25-2021)
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Advice needed: I have a 997 Turbo and would like to upgrade. I am considering ordering a 992 GTS. I have never ordered a new Porsche, so I have a lot to learn. I spoke to my local dealer today and I can "order" one for a $2500 deposit and could expect to take delivery in 9-12 months. I am wondering if this officially gets me on the list, or if it is just a ploy to string me along...how does this really work? Thanks for any help.
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Advice needed: I have a 997 Turbo and would like to upgrade. I am considering ordering a 992 GTS. I have never ordered a new Porsche, so I have a lot to learn. I spoke to my local dealer today and I can "order" one for a $2500 deposit and could expect to take delivery in 9-12 months. I am wondering if this officially gets me on the list, or if it is just a ploy to string me along...how does this really work? Thanks for any help.
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Here's a link to the video:
Porsche 911 992 GTS, amazing or more a cold filet-o-fish? - YouTube
Porsche 911 992 GTS, amazing or more a cold filet-o-fish? - YouTube
100% agree. They look amazing and it's obviously a huge (and decently rare) differentiator between other Carrera configurations.
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Advice needed: I have a 997 Turbo and would like to upgrade. I am considering ordering a 992 GTS. I have never ordered a new Porsche, so I have a lot to learn. I spoke to my local dealer today and I can "order" one for a $2500 deposit and could expect to take delivery in 9-12 months. I am wondering if this officially gets me on the list, or if it is just a ploy to string me along...how does this really work? Thanks for any help.
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gbakerge (06-25-2021)
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It's either Porsche Littleton or Colorado Springs...there aren't that many and the other two that I can think of, I've never heard of them doing that. Porsche Littleton had a 991.2 GT3 a few years back that I was interested in and it had a mark up on it... but, those cars usually do. I mean, thats insane but if some crazy rich person is willing to pay for that. Also, I heard that Porsche Corporate is doing something different with the GT cars, not "The List" and I was told that they were still waiting for more info but I also know a few people have already been able to order a GT3.
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I'm an owner of a 991.1 GTS. I had a C2S on order when the 991 was introduced and immediately switched to the GTS. I love the car. It was a great parts-bin value and there's nothing wrong with that. But I have to say that I'm a bit underwhelmed by the 992 GTS. It's the same parts-bin value formula (although not as good a value as the 991 imo) but I was somehow expecting something more this time around after the Panny, Cayenne and especially 718 GTSes. Instead, we got the same-old same-old. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but nothing great about it either. As Nick said . . . a missed opportunity.
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Dave GT4 (07-08-2021)
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I don't think that's it. I think that what's illuminated are the three angled vertical lines on the outer edge of the light modules.
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Just did the comparison on my C2S build. If I spec it exactly the same, my sticker would go from $152k to $162k. However, I received $9k off MSRP & a GTS in this market will most certainly have ADM. Especially here in California.
So I’d be looking at $170k+ for a GTS when my OTD price before tax was $143k on my S. I wouldn’t want centerlocks or the clear taillights. I’d try to get rid of all the alcantara in the GTS except the roof liner. The GTS still uses the same PCCB’s as the S. So I wouldn’t gain much & I would be near a $30k delta.
Good analysis...mine when I priced it was about $12k more than my 992S but likely ADM makes it a stupid proposition if offered an allocation. Why give pay $17-27k more for a GTS when I wouldn't want a good portion of the stuff (alcantara all over, wheels, etc) and shorter shifter is really only interest point as the HP is nice but not needed daily likely. So agree with your assessment.
In general I’m glad I’m not in the market.
So I’d be looking at $170k+ for a GTS when my OTD price before tax was $143k on my S. I wouldn’t want centerlocks or the clear taillights. I’d try to get rid of all the alcantara in the GTS except the roof liner. The GTS still uses the same PCCB’s as the S. So I wouldn’t gain much & I would be near a $30k delta.
Good analysis...mine when I priced it was about $12k more than my 992S but likely ADM makes it a stupid proposition if offered an allocation. Why give pay $17-27k more for a GTS when I wouldn't want a good portion of the stuff (alcantara all over, wheels, etc) and shorter shifter is really only interest point as the HP is nice but not needed daily likely. So agree with your assessment.
In general I’m glad I’m not in the market.
With GT3 allocations now being basically next to impossible, a mini-GT3 touring in GTS form is looking mighty fine.
Questions for the experts here. Is the manual 7-speed transmission the same transmission that's been offered in the 992 Gen for a little while now with just shorter throws? This is the ZF source transmission that is adapted from the PDK gearbox?
Questions for the experts here. Is the manual 7-speed transmission the same transmission that's been offered in the 992 Gen for a little while now with just shorter throws? This is the ZF source transmission that is adapted from the PDK gearbox?
LOL
I seriously think the only reason to get the GTS is for the additional power, upgraded breaks and if you like the Porsche styling of their GTS cars, which I do. However, I bet most people would find the base has more than enough capability, its much better than the 991.2 base. Otherwise, you are better off with the S 4S, the car is seriously fast/quick/whatever and I cant imagine what the extra HP on the GTS will be like. And, I have driven a 991.2 GTS manual a bit, so I know what that was like (like a 992 S)
Looks the bizness though..color wise Outside the wheels and badging hard to tell it from a regular 992S or even base 992 car with the widebody change especially.
I loved my 991.2 S! But replaced it with a 991.2 GTS because I HAD to have a GTS. And I regretted it. The added power was all in the top end. Which I didnt spend much time in going 0- speed limits in suburbia. So it honestly didnt feel as snappy as my 991.2S for street driving. YES it was faster overall. But it didnt feel faster down low. The bigger turbos also didn't make spooling sounds as much as my S versions did (which makes sense because they are bigger turbos). And the center locks which I HAD to have where a nightmare. Wheels were 10-12K, options where limited. Mine had alcantera and that got old REAL quick as a daily driver. I will never get a GTS again. And with pricing as high as it is now, Id rather save up for a Turbo with 5 lugs. To me the 992 GTS doesnt make sense in its price point.
I’m personally a bit torn. I like what they did as the previous GTS cars were mostly an options package but now with revised suspension and larger brakes it seems a bit more. I currently awaiting an allocation for a C2S but considering swapping to a GTS. The biggest question that remains to me is if there is a significant suspension difference with the 992 Turbo/rear helper spring design. Is it significantly stiffer and if so is that trade off worth the possible better compliance/control? Dont want centerlocks, dont want alcantara, dont need more power, dont really want more noise and dont really care for larger brakes/more unsprung weight as a daily driver street car. Hoping some reviews come out soon that will talk about some driving impressions/feel until then I think I will save 15k and stick with the C2S manual.
^^^ I get all that and don't disagree but every SPEC I have built for a C2S is so close to the price of the same model C2GTS. I'd rather have a special model AND with the specs I want. That's the thing, it's what I want. And what You want you will get. That's the beauty of choice that Porsche has given us, with a hefty price. Genius.
I tuned my 991.2 4S because I regretted not waiting for the GTS, that was a mistake and blew up the fuel pressure regulator and bricked my ECU. I'm sooo done with ECU tuning and settling for less than what I want. Brand new 2022 GTS (if I should be so lucky to get an allocation) is what I desire for $150k, it's a steal compared to my 2018 C4S 148k.
I tuned my 991.2 4S because I regretted not waiting for the GTS, that was a mistake and blew up the fuel pressure regulator and bricked my ECU. I'm sooo done with ECU tuning and settling for less than what I want. Brand new 2022 GTS (if I should be so lucky to get an allocation) is what I desire for $150k, it's a steal compared to my 2018 C4S 148k.
I found that the GTSness of the GTS are things I don't want, the Race-Tex everywhere unless you option back to leather, the wheel options or lack thereof, the clear taillight and black badging, so for me, the benefits of the specialness of the GTS I would find myself spec'ing the car back to Carrera S for the most part. Unless you want the buckets and other GTS package details, similar to the 718 GTS 4.0 package, I think the GTS is geared towards a specific buyer.
Which is why quite a few owners decide to swap them out for 5 lugs in previous models. Too much of an issue for a car that was driven more than just one or two weekends a year. Friend of mine had one 991.1 and tried to daily drive the car in an area of not too great roads and said that was a huge mistake. Fear of tire damage and the requisite trip to the nearest dealership got him stranded more than once. So he paid the price to swap them back to 5 lugs which he said made maintenance and emergency service much easier and left centerlocks for the track junkies.
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Could be and that's what I thought too at first... But what are these two small red lines then? They don't exist in other 992 Porsche models, even if they have the "same" lights as the GTS... Who knows...Would be just too coincidental and I don't believe in such things when it comes to Porsche marketing.. One thing that's is sure is that we'll find out when the first GTSs start rolling out...
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#149
Has it been confirmed there are different or larger turbos like in the 991.2 series? Or same hardware and different tune?
#150
Everyone is assuming you can’t get a GTS without an ADM. In certain markets, I’m sure that it’s unavoidable but I suspect that many (most?) people will be able to get a GTS without an ADM, and not just VIPs.
Historically, you could get a GTS with a discount, albeit less a discount than a C2S. Clearly we’re not back to that as the norm, but getting a GTS at sticker shouldn’t be an impossible dream.
Historically, you could get a GTS with a discount, albeit less a discount than a C2S. Clearly we’re not back to that as the norm, but getting a GTS at sticker shouldn’t be an impossible dream.