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Old 06-25-2021, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkGTS
Here is my $156k Build



ditch the sunroof
Old 06-25-2021, 12:42 PM
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@991.1 Guy - suggesting to swap for Carbon Fiber roof instead?
Old 06-25-2021, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
I loved my 991.2 S! But replaced it with a 991.2 GTS because I HAD to have a GTS. And I regretted it. The added power was all in the top end. Which I didnt spend much time in going 0- speed limits in suburbia. So it honestly didnt feel as snappy as my 991.2S for street driving. YES it was faster overall. But it didnt feel faster down low. The bigger turbos also didn't make spooling sounds as much as my S versions did (which makes sense because they are bigger turbos). And the center locks which I HAD to have where a nightmare. Wheels were 10-12K, options where limited. Mine had alcantera and that got old REAL quick as a daily driver. I will never get a GTS again. And with pricing as high as it is now, Id rather save up for a Turbo with 5 lugs. To me the 992 GTS doesnt make sense in its price point.
Nice post. Real talk. This is why I always say get the right 911 that matches your style. There's no such thing is more letters are better on a 911.
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Old 06-25-2021, 12:50 PM
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I’m personally a bit torn. I like what they did as the previous GTS cars were mostly an options package but now with revised suspension and larger brakes it seems a bit more. I currently awaiting an allocation for a C2S but considering swapping to a GTS. The biggest question that remains to me is if there is a significant suspension difference with the 992 Turbo/rear helper spring design. Is it significantly stiffer and if so is that trade off worth the possible better compliance/control? Dont want centerlocks, dont want alcantara, dont need more power, dont really want more noise and dont really care for larger brakes/more unsprung weight as a daily driver street car. Hoping some reviews come out soon that will talk about some driving impressions/feel until then I think I will save 15k and stick with the C2S manual.

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Old 06-25-2021, 01:02 PM
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^^^ I get all that and don't disagree but every SPEC I have built for a C2S is so close to the price of the same model C2GTS. I'd rather have a special model AND with the specs I want. That's the thing, it's what I want. And what You want you will get. That's the beauty of choice that Porsche has given us, with a hefty price. Genius.

I tuned my 991.2 4S because I regretted not waiting for the GTS, that was a mistake and blew up the fuel pressure regulator and bricked my ECU. I'm sooo done with ECU tuning and settling for less than what I want. Brand new 2022 GTS (if I should be so lucky to get an allocation) is what I desire for $150k, it's a steal compared to my 2018 C4S 148k.
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Old 06-25-2021, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NotanotherIMS
I sold the Cab when my G63 arrived (New)

It's incredible (the G63) but at the end of the day it's a rocket propelled 3 ton tank - aside from the 5mpg it just didn't feel right for me. I'm single and found it over kill.
Glad i scratched that itch but ready to get back into a 992. Figured i already had the cab so wanted to try something new. I know there is a weight issue but I'm sure the extra BHP from the GTS will more than compensate for that (I hope)
One of my mates had an AMG G-wagon in Utah, when it snowed the headlight surrounds filled up. Some smart design there, not.
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Old 06-25-2021, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkGTS
@991.1 Guy - suggesting to swap for Carbon Fiber roof instead?
yes!
Old 06-25-2021, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 991.1 Guy
yes!
counterpoint: no!

how much weight could that tiny little component possibly save? feels like a waste of $ better applied elsewhere.
Old 06-25-2021, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkGTS
^^^ I get all that and don't disagree but every SPEC I have built for a C2S is so close to the price of the same model C2GTS. I'd rather have a special model AND with the specs I want. That's the thing, it's what I want. And what You want you will get. That's the beauty of choice that Porsche has given us, with a hefty price. Genius.

I tuned my 991.2 4S because I regretted not waiting for the GTS, that was a mistake and blew up the fuel pressure regulator and bricked my ECU. I'm sooo done with ECU tuning and settling for less than what I want. Brand new 2022 GTS (if I should be so lucky to get an allocation) is what I desire for $150k, it's a steal compared to my 2018 C4S 148k.
I found that the GTSness of the GTS are things I don't want, the Race-Tex everywhere unless you option back to leather, the wheel options or lack thereof, the clear taillight and black badging, so for me, the benefits of the specialness of the GTS I would find myself spec'ing the car back to Carrera S for the most part. Unless you want the buckets and other GTS package details, similar to the 718 GTS 4.0 package, I think the GTS is geared towards a specific buyer.
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Old 06-25-2021, 03:02 PM
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If you don't want the bigger brakes and more power then the GTS won't make sense.
Old 06-25-2021, 03:54 PM
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Consider a very similar build of a C2S and C2GTS. Within 5K. Now fast forward 3-4 years. The selling value of a heavily optioned C2S vs C2GTS will be different. I think the depreciation and potential higher demand for special models makes the value of the GTS pretty obvious from the first day or purchase and on... years later. How many S models you see for sale on Autotrader vs GTS models?
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Originally Posted by SharkGTS
Consider a very similar build of a C2S and C2GTS. Within 5K. Now fast forward 3-4 years. The selling value of a heavily optioned C2S vs C2GTS will be different. I think the depreciation and potential higher demand for special models makes the value of the GTS pretty obvious from the first day or purchase and on... years later. How many S models you see for sale on Autotrader vs GTS models?
I agree with that. If you can get one without ADM, the GTS is a much better value proposition. If I could trade my C2S currently being built fot a GTS allocation, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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Old 06-25-2021, 04:26 PM
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Add the CF mirror caps after delivery as I think they look best with the standard matte black stalks, especially on the GTS with all the other matte black details. For some absurd reason that's not a configurator combo.
Wheels would get swapped out with aftermarket ones very shortly after delivery so still debating center locks or not. I love the slight uniqueness of the look, but they do make new wheels more expensive and some people say they're a PITA to deal with. Curious what previous/current owners of center lock wheels here think. Are they worth it?
Love the idea and look of the buckets but still debating if they're the right move for a car I would drive pretty frequently and track rarely. Rear seats are pretty much useless so I'm fine with them disappearing. More curious if the buckets are comfortable to sit in for extended time? I may take delivery in Atlanta to visit family nearby and then turn it into a cross country drive/adventure back home. Would be plenty of days with 8+hrs seat time if I did that. Also are they large enough pain to get in/out of that I'm going to hear it from the lady every time we go for a drive? That alone may remove them from consideration. lol.
Old 06-25-2021, 05:16 PM
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Just watched Nick Murray’s video on YouTube on the 992 GTS - he’s not impressed!
I must admit I’m swaying back to the C2s and spec it up!
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Originally Posted by Matty-B
Just watched Nick Murray’s video on YouTube on the 992 GTS - he’s not impressed!
I must admit I’m swaying back to the C2s and spec it up!
Here's a link to the video:

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