992 GTS Discussion
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It says 9/21.
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GTS embargo will be lifted on Saturday -stay tuned for Tons of reviews
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LWBs= Light Weight Bucket Seats, the same as the carbon bucket seats (as mentioned by you) when talking about 992 seat options. There used to be two different kinds of bucket seat options (at least in Europe) with regards to 991 series, foldable and non-foldable versions, where the non-foldable one was the closest to/same as the seats in 918, a.k.a LWBs). GT3s are relatively often specced with these bucket seats, Turbos not so much. Should you see a 992 Turbo with LWBs, it's probably as a result of the Lightweight Package that an owner has decided to spec it with, similar to the current GTS, but it seems to be an extremely rarely chosen option. Please also notice that the Lightweight Package (992) categorically omits the rear seats completely, which wasn't the case with 991 series. I guess, when it comes to 911 Rs, the LWBs were pretty much inherent, but in relation to GT3s, especially GT3 Tourings, there were probably equally as many cars specced with either 18-way or 4-way Sport Seats Plus. Totally depends on the use case, individual measurements of the body and/or the level of comfort and/or versatility one appreciates/requires. Heck, according to my understanding, at one point it was even possible to equip any 991 Carrera with LWBs (at least here in Europe), while retaining the back seats. Times have changed indeed...
#188
I'm a new member and just made a deposit for a 992 GTS Cab: GT Silver, Club leather Truffle Brown w/Chalk stitching, white tack and clock, RS spyder wheels, brown top, premium package, 14 way seats, ventilated seats, PDK, PDCC, power steering plus, front axle lift. This car is to replace the wife's '15 Boxster GTS mt. My personal fun car is a '09 Ferrari 430 Scuderia. This will be my 8th Porsche (1st a '72 T targa I had in the mid '70's). Also raced PCA (GT3 class) and NASA for 10 yrs. with a highly modified 964. I would appreciate feedback on the PDCC and power steering plus options. Any negatives? I live in a rural area and occasionally like an early morning aggressive drive so handling performance is important. Not sure I would track it. I scratched that itch already. The wife wants the manual but I really like the sequential in the Scud and after 10 yrs of racing a 6-speed, don't need to row and heal & toe any more. Any other options I should consider? Thanks for the input.
#189
I'm a new member and just made a deposit for a 992 GTS Cab: GT Silver, Club leather Truffle Brown w/Chalk stitching, white tack and clock, RS spyder wheels, brown top, premium package, 14 way seats, ventilated seats, PDK, PDCC, power steering plus, front axle lift. This car is to replace the wife's '15 Boxster GTS mt. My personal fun car is a '09 Ferrari 430 Scuderia. This will be my 8th Porsche (1st a '72 T targa I had in the mid '70's). Also raced PCA (GT3 class) and NASA for 10 yrs. with a highly modified 964. I would appreciate feedback on the PDCC and power steering plus options. Any negatives? I live in a rural area and occasionally like an early morning aggressive drive so handling performance is important. Not sure I would track it. I scratched that itch already. The wife wants the manual but I really like the sequential in the Scud and after 10 yrs of racing a 6-speed, don't need to row and heal & toe any more. Any other options I should consider? Thanks for the input.
#190
Thanks for the feedback. The salesman, a long-time friend that I have bought 3 other P cars from and a racer, suggested both these items. He recommended the steering assist not because the steering is heavy but because it results in a more balanced steering feel and the automated sway bars give a more comfortable ride when cruising. Have you personally experienced either of these options? He has driven the 992 with and without these options and thinks this is the optimal set up. That said, he is a salesman and I want to make sure by checking against others experience, good & bad.
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I'm a new member and just made a deposit for a 992 GTS Cab: GT Silver, Club leather Truffle Brown w/Chalk stitching, white tack and clock, RS spyder wheels, brown top, premium package, 14 way seats, ventilated seats, PDK, PDCC, power steering plus, front axle lift. This car is to replace the wife's '15 Boxster GTS mt. My personal fun car is a '09 Ferrari 430 Scuderia. This will be my 8th Porsche (1st a '72 T targa I had in the mid '70's). Also raced PCA (GT3 class) and NASA for 10 yrs. with a highly modified 964. I would appreciate feedback on the PDCC and power steering plus options. Any negatives? I live in a rural area and occasionally like an early morning aggressive drive so handling performance is important. Not sure I would track it. I scratched that itch already. The wife wants the manual but I really like the sequential in the Scud and after 10 yrs of racing a 6-speed, don't need to row and heal & toe any more. Any other options I should consider? Thanks for the input.
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Thanks for the info. The PDCC Package on the GTS includes rear wheel steering. My rational for the PDCC was that with active sway bars the ride would be more compliant (comfortable) at lower speeds. With my model choice and spec I am trying to create a car that I can enjoy just cruising around but will have a relatively high level of performance when I want it. Glad to hear you like the Power Steering Plus. My salesman highly recommended it. He said it is a real bargain and adds to the cars handling dynamics. At $260, price wasn't an issue but I wanted to make sure it wasn't going to detract from a more communicative steering feel.
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Thanks for the info. The PDCC Package on the GTS includes rear wheel steering. My rational for the PDCC was that with active sway bars the ride would be more compliant (comfortable) at lower speeds. With my model choice and spec I am trying to create a car that I can enjoy just cruising around but will have a relatively high level of performance when I want it. Glad to hear you like the Power Steering Plus. My salesman highly recommended it. He said it is a real bargain and adds to the cars handling dynamics. At $260, price wasn't an issue but I wanted to make sure it wasn't going to detract from a more communicative steering feel.
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#194
You're absolutely right. Apologies, I forgot that selecting PDCC forces to choose the rear-wheel steering as well. Same with other models. Fully understand your logic and I have the same preferences myself. I think the sport PASM possesses the required qualities and is pretty much perfect for the job.The ride is quite comfortable enough already (for cruising needs) and at the same time has a high performance potential because of the changes Porsche made in the 992 series PASM. PDCC would become more useful if the chassis was higher and there would be more potential deflection in the springs (think Cayenne). Of course, it helps but the gains might be marginal. The GTS and Turbo specific helper springs also help with this and make the chassis even better overall. Please, see the below explanation from Porsche about the new PASM. It's about Turbos but it's the same with GTS (and mostly with other 992s too). The ride should be a lot more comfortable than in 991 while also being stiffer when needed.. (Someone shared these in another thread earlier...)
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Thanks for providing this. It is really helpful. Porsche auto engineers are the best in the world (outside of F1, of course). I did notice that the car can be ordered with a 10MM increase in ride height for more comfort but I am betting that the new 992 GTS suspension with PSAM & PDCC will be comfortable enough at cruising speeds on regular road surfaces. Plus I think the car looks so much better with a lowered stance. Do you know where this information comes from? I didn't see it on their web site. Thanks again, this was exactly the type of information I was looking for. I'm much more confident in the spec now.
Not sure where the material came from originally. Someone else shared it on the forum first. Based on the looks it could be some sort of internal marketing material but it's definitely something Porsche should have put on their website, as it so clearly explains the benefits and features of the new set-up. Haven't seen this information anywhere else either, even though I've tried to search. It's always good to have a more in-depth view on the technical side of things, especially when it comes to Porsche as they also invest so much in it. Why not let the owners and potential buyers learn as much of it as possible?
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