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Old 04-12-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by susko
I wonder if that's the most cost effective option to go with a lighter wheel. 10k+ for HRE's is not an option for me
Yes it’s the most cost effective. Porsche only charges you $2600 for the ED wheels so in essence you are trading in your S wheels. To buy a set of Porsche design wheels you’ll pay over 5k.
Old 04-12-2023, 07:17 PM
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Has anyone ordered any CXX options?
Old 04-12-2023, 07:30 PM
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HRE's aren't $10K (or don't need to be anyways). I put them on my 650 GC and they were just over $4k
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Old 04-12-2023, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cartod
My estimates and how I spec’d my T

Radio -12lbs
CF roof. -12lbs
exclusive wheels -16lbs
4 way seat -10lbs
RAS. -35lbs
MT. -35lbs
FAL. -12 lbs
Rear seats. -15 lbs.
No door stripe. -4oz. 😃

feel free to add to the list.
Where did you get these numbers? I have a few different ones.

CF roof - I've consistently seen 2 or 4 lbs. Seemed expensive on a lb/$ basis so I skipped it.
Rear seats are 25 lbs. 20 for the seats and 5 for the belts.
4 ways vs 18 ways is higher, though I can't recall the number. And much higher if you have ventilated or heated seats on the 18 ways. Those systems are heavy.
MT, I've heard two numbers several times: 77 lbs or 84lbs. Either way, it's not just 35 lbs.
FAL is 15 lbs.
And finally, wheels, I'm ordering an aftermarket set that will save me about 30lbs of unsprung weight which translates roughly into the equivalent of about 120lbs of static weight.

I've heard so many times that "a few lbs extra doesn't matter" but it all adds up. I bet most Ts on the road will be in the 2,300-2,350 range. I'm hoping to get mine down to about 3,100-3,150. Those 200 lbs will certainly make a difference.
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Old 04-12-2023, 07:50 PM
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Likely Shipmates!
Damn - me too...original delivery was to be this week- now updated to leaving port 5/12 and to the dealer 6/3
Old 04-12-2023, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by avid
Where did you get these numbers? I have a few different ones.

CF roof - I've consistently seen 2 or 4 lbs. Seemed expensive on a lb/$ basis so I skipped it.
Rear seats are 25 lbs. 20 for the seats and 5 for the belts.
Rear seats are 15 pounds according to their site. All 992's have an open roof upon paint completion. I'd tend to think the differences between CF, steel and glass are pretty negligible. If you want to go faster, get off your fat a@# and lose some weight.
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Old 04-12-2023, 08:43 PM
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Im guessing at most numbers. A carbon roof compared to a glass sunroof has to be 50-60 lb diff. I’m going to weigh my car at the local landfill when it comes in. Let’s have a contest to see who can get it the lightest.

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Old 04-12-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Rear seats are 15 pounds according to their site. All 992's have an open roof upon paint completion. I'd tend to think the differences between CF, steel and glass are pretty negligible. If you want to go faster, get off your fat a@# and lose some weight.
I’ve lost 32 lbs since I placed my order!
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:10 PM
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I've yet to see anyone weight their 992 T. Until then, we don't know exactly how Porsche is weighing the cars. Is the weight they show on their site with the base configuration (i.e. rear seat delete and 4ways, etc.)? If that's the case then the S and GTS weight would be with PDK since that is in the base configuration. I'm seriously trying to understand these numbers, because none of it really makes much sense. If you think the T is the lightweight option in the Carrera line-up then where does the lightweight come from? Just the sound insulation? And how much are you really saving (apples to apples). The GTS can be ordered with a lightweight pack (although it's currently unavailable like man other things), so they only thing heavier is probably the turbos and the brakes. It comes with forged wheels and aero bumpers standard as well. It's only a 95lbs heavier than the T in the tech specs (manual for both). If you remove the rear seats and get a lightweight battery, I'm sure that difference will be much less. Plus some of that weight comes from the larger brakes, which would be unsprung weight (as well as rotational). So, I'm seriously wondering why people are saying that this is a lightweight, bare bones, back to basics 911? To me, it's mostly marketing and if I'm buying a T (which I've done), it's for the ability to get the base 911 in manual with SPASM, etc. Not the minuscule weight savings. And I'm really wondering how the youtubers are saying they feel the weight (or lack of) when they have 150-200lbs passenger sitting next to them. I feel like there's a lot of Kool Aid involved here. I'm not saying the T isn't all that. It is! But to think that it's the lightweight 911 is a bit of a stretch. The T with PDK is 16lbs lighter than the base carrera with PDK. That's from the tech specs on the Porsche website, which again, I'm not sure how they are spec'ing the car when they come up with the weight. I wish Porsche showed the weight of each option when you add it in the configurator.
Also, the 992 T is about 100lbs heavier than the 991.2 T with a few more horses, which basically is what you get when you go S or GTS. A bit more weight but more horses.

Again, not trying to hate or be a naysayer, but I seriously would love to see some real world weights of the T, S, GTS, etc. The tech specs and a bunch of speculation doesn't do anything.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
HRE's aren't $10K (or don't need to be anyways). I put them on my 650 GC and they were just over $4k
What model HRE's were $4k?! I paid over $8k for mine and the prices have increased since then.
Old 04-12-2023, 10:23 PM
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OK. Since my T is now delayed another month or so, I’m bored and would like to chit chat about upgrades post delivery. I probably won’t do much for awhile or if ever. Just curious what others may be thinking of upgrading. Below is my list of potential aftermarket upgrade items. This is just stuff I’m pondering- not that I’d do any of it. Please no comment on it would add this amount of weight, ruin the T, kill the warranty, etc. Yes, I’ve done all on my list to past cars and aware of pros and cons. Just wondering if anyone is considering anything not on my list? Again, just for kicks. Jokes are welcome also!


1 - Clear side markers
2 - Wind buffeting trim piece
3 - Window tint / ppf / ceramic coat
4 - Audio upgrade
5 - Sports Cats
6 - Body kit
7 - Turbo upgrade
8 - ecu upgrade
9 - Wheels / tires upgrade
10 - Roll Bar, ha

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Old 04-12-2023, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
I've yet to see anyone weight their 992 T. Until then, we don't know exactly how Porsche is weighing the cars. Is the weight they show on their site with the base configuration (i.e. rear seat delete and 4ways, etc.)? If that's the case then the S and GTS weight would be with PDK since that is in the base configuration. I'm seriously trying to understand these numbers, because none of it really makes much sense. If you think the T is the lightweight option in the Carrera line-up then where does the lightweight come from? Just the sound insulation? And how much are you really saving (apples to apples). The GTS can be ordered with a lightweight pack (although it's currently unavailable like man other things), so they only thing heavier is probably the turbos and the brakes. It comes with forged wheels and aero bumpers standard as well. It's only a 95lbs heavier than the T in the tech specs (manual for both). If you remove the rear seats and get a lightweight battery, I'm sure that difference will be much less. Plus some of that weight comes from the larger brakes, which would be unsprung weight (as well as rotational). So, I'm seriously wondering why people are saying that this is a lightweight, bare bones, back to basics 911? To me, it's mostly marketing and if I'm buying a T (which I've done), it's for the ability to get the base 911 in manual with SPASM, etc. Not the minuscule weight savings. And I'm really wondering how the youtubers are saying they feel the weight (or lack of) when they have 150-200lbs passenger sitting next to them. I feel like there's a lot of Kool Aid involved here. I'm not saying the T isn't all that. It is! But to think that it's the lightweight 911 is a bit of a stretch. The T with PDK is 16lbs lighter than the base carrera with PDK. That's from the tech specs on the Porsche website, which again, I'm not sure how they are spec'ing the car when they come up with the weight. I wish Porsche showed the weight of each option when you add it in the configurator.
Also, the 992 T is about 100lbs heavier than the 991.2 T with a few more horses, which basically is what you get when you go S or GTS. A bit more weight but more horses.

Again, not trying to hate or be a naysayer, but I seriously would love to see some real world weights of the T, S, GTS, etc. The tech specs and a bunch of speculation doesn't do anything.
With you on all counts. It is and it isn't, just depends on how one perceive it. Marketing from Porsche should always seen as pure marketing. As a multiple 911 owner for all generations, I decided to order a T because it's has the most attractive package that suits my need in the current 992 line-up based on usability and affordability, not because it's the lightest nor coolest.

What I really would like is if T can be ordered with an interior color other than black. That would've been perfect for me.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tourenwagen
What model HRE's were $4k?! I paid over $8k for mine and the prices have increased since then.
I saw these on EBay. Forged, but they may wobble after awhile?



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HRE FF = flow formed aka cast not forged
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Originally Posted by Cartod
No extended tank for me because:
- I’m ok with getting out of the car after 350 miles and stretching
​​​​​​- in winter storage it’s more gas to treat/ and for some, not be treated

A larger tank means more unnecessary fuel in a car collection car( and be honest , the 911 has become collector status). I’ve got more cars than I probably should. 😂
I have the extended tank on my GT3 and on a Sunday drive (~40-50 miles) I can use up about 1/3 of it. It's what can happen with a car that revs to 9000. Oh but what glorious sound.
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