992 Carrera T Club
#5746
Ha! Glad you spotted that! I haven't touched C++ in a decade however my spouse found that photo on some online meme and said that I looked like him. I'm in IT and have been obsessed with multiple monitors for quite some time.
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HerrDr (02-18-2023)
#5747
I also agree with you on the usefulness of the rear seats! Loved chucking things back there in my last 911. Wish there was less gloss black on the interior.
#5748
You have my sympathies! I would have asked as well! You never know, maybe Bjarne would have helped with debugging!
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toph4242 (02-18-2023)
#5750
Here is more about this. They were faster since the first laps done with it, but it was considered not worth the development and the chance to be caught with it.
#5751
This is exactly what I mean. For every option, you can debate both sides. I added RAS as standard equipment because there were some posts that noted it should be key performance spec. Others have also said this is not required. Finally there was also a total extreme post where someone went to a porsche driving event where they were testing out RAS. The individual then pointed out that none of the vehicles had RAS on it that instructors agree with, but folks continued to rave about RAS.
#5752
The opposite actually...I was the one that went to the Porsche performance and masters driving school down at Barber Motorsport park and when I called the Porsche track school to find out how they build their cars for the track programs, I was told that all Carrera S and GTS models used on track are optioned with the RAS option... which is why I personally went forward with adding the option.
I stand by the fact that I could totally regret this down the road, but im going to run with it, and life is too short for regrets... Lucky to be able to order the car, and if someday I decide I made the wrong choice, its on to the next one
I stand by the fact that I could totally regret this down the road, but im going to run with it, and life is too short for regrets... Lucky to be able to order the car, and if someday I decide I made the wrong choice, its on to the next one
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toph4242 (02-18-2023)
#5754
Sure... but the difference between the Porsche experience center and these dedicated track schools are significant. The Porsche Experience center they are trying to sell cars, get people in the drivers seat and sell them on all the options that most probably don't need. The Masters, Masters RS classes etc are $5k-12K schools designed to teach enthusiasts how to be the best they possibly can be on track. OF COURSE they want to sell you their product, but I dont think they are sitting there thinking "Lets put RWS in all our track cars so people will buy the option"... they do it because its the best setup for that scenario according to them, and they can get the most out of the car and the driver with the setup that they use... In fact, this is a perfect example of certain cars on track were given the Ceramics and certain ones were given the steel brakes... they didnt go ceramic on everything... they also optioned some with manual, some with pdk...
When you go to these programs you sit down and have dinner with all the instructors (all current drivers for various Porsche racing programs)... and the drivers will be very honest about what they do and do not like.. Many were anti ceramic for the track, many were anti PDK (because they love the manual experience).. others were shockingly ANTI turbo S because it was just too much weight and power to enjoy on track... so I didn't ever feel like the people there were trying to sell me on anything other than Porsche itself. When I called to ask about the RWS, they also had to check and get back to me... they didnt know for sure the spec, and then called back and said, Yup... we make sure all the cars that can come with that option do get that box checked for this program.
OK Rant over... I say all of this to convince me and only me that I made the right choice haha... no pressure on anyone else to agree with me.
When you go to these programs you sit down and have dinner with all the instructors (all current drivers for various Porsche racing programs)... and the drivers will be very honest about what they do and do not like.. Many were anti ceramic for the track, many were anti PDK (because they love the manual experience).. others were shockingly ANTI turbo S because it was just too much weight and power to enjoy on track... so I didn't ever feel like the people there were trying to sell me on anything other than Porsche itself. When I called to ask about the RWS, they also had to check and get back to me... they didnt know for sure the spec, and then called back and said, Yup... we make sure all the cars that can come with that option do get that box checked for this program.
OK Rant over... I say all of this to convince me and only me that I made the right choice haha... no pressure on anyone else to agree with me.
#5756
RAS was standard on my 991.2 GT3. On the track (MidOhio) it expands the performance envelope before the electronic nannies intrude which makes for a faster lap time. It's one of the myriad ways that the car makes me a faster (but not necessarily more skillful) driver. I didn't spec it on my 911T to avoid the extra weight, cost, and complexity. Just my $0.02
And YET, I chose to opt for the RAS even though I doubt I’ll be able to tell the difference. I’m not quite sure why exactly though, I think it probably has some FOMO component to it.
Knowing myself, I would probably overthink about if the driving experience would be better if I did have RAS. This is in spite all the evidence pointing to it making no difference to driving enjoyment. Figured 2k is not a bad amount to spend to be able to avoid those negative thoughts altogether!
Last edited by A Nonce; 02-18-2023 at 01:42 PM.
#5757
‘1. Left it at manual and not give the pdk option - they left base at pdk only, why not do the same as T
2. Add RAS as a standard equipment if it was important to the "ethos of T". They did add Sport Exhaust and Sport Chrono as standard.
3. If sunroof is not the preferred way to go, it should not be an option either.
4.Don't give the option to spec rear seats at all.’
#2 - Why is RAS part of the T ethos??
If anything it should be banned on the T as it adds weight and doesn’t add much (according to most reviews) other than tight driveways etc
2. Add RAS as a standard equipment if it was important to the "ethos of T". They did add Sport Exhaust and Sport Chrono as standard.
3. If sunroof is not the preferred way to go, it should not be an option either.
4.Don't give the option to spec rear seats at all.’
#2 - Why is RAS part of the T ethos??
If anything it should be banned on the T as it adds weight and doesn’t add much (according to most reviews) other than tight driveways etc
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toph4242 (02-18-2023)
#5758
The only reason I got a glass sunroof is to break up all the green. Carbon fiber is too expensive imo for the benefit it provides. I was considering fake vinyl carbon fiber but in the end my wife wanted a sunroof so I compromised. I got RAS for the tight turning radius as I have to turn around and go back out my long driveway.
#5759
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Last edited by Cartod; 02-18-2023 at 02:48 PM.
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A Nonce (02-18-2023)