So you interpret me responding that Andreas' comments regarding how the exclusion of RAS on the ST confirmed my decision about excluding RAS for myself and others since we skipped RAS before the ST came out in response to someone suggesting some exclude RAS because the ST doesn't have it as "I am or we are right"??? Either you missed context or that is some creative extrapolating my friend. SMH.

But since you brought it up, yes, I am of the opinion that RAS doesn't add much and takes away much from a road car that doesn't see track or autocross, especially If you value the rear bias feel of a 911. It's my personal opinion expressed in the exact same way you and every other person who posts on RL expresses their opinion. RAS does add unsprung weight. RAS can feel synthetic. RAS can make the rear-bias 911 feel more like a mid engine car. RAS does make the car quicker on the track and autocross. Though I concur with those sentiments, they are not just my opinion. They have been expressed over and over and over by reviewers who have experience driving both RAS and non RAS equipped cars and specifically 992s, which are quite different form 991.2s, whether it's the narrower body with thinner tires and smaller contact patch or different RAS calibration we're talking about.

 

Honestly I spec’ed RAS because the price point for it wasn’t too crazy for “ added performance “which I value over extended leather or leather for that matter

 

$197K on T?

 

I didn't think you were coming at me or anything, but you did play the "you had to be there to understand" card. So yes I was there......


and apparently some have forgotten that there is no such thing as a real 911 anymore. Words like "pure" have no place / make no sense in a conversation about the water cooled datacenter on wheels that Porsche now refers to as a "911".....
/s

 

Are you in high school? Jeezus!

The 992 sub, unlike any other sub, is filled with people who are buying their first 911. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with recognizing that people who have never owned one have less context than people who have. It's the reason they come to the forum in the first place - to ask for opinions and get feedback from people who do.

As for your other comment, you may think we're all buying fake 911s, but the only thing I know, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that a) the last 911 you owned was 19 years ago, and b) you don't currently own a 911, making your opinion less weighty to those of us who do currently own a 911. As someone who has now owned 14 911s of various vintages including cars from the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s and now 20s, I don't think there is anything fake or non911 about my 992T. In fact, to me, it's the perfect evolution of the other vintages I've owned.

 

I'm including RAS on my T. For the price, it seems like a worthwhile addition for the improved handling and performance.

 

Unfortunately this medium has it's limitations....

I was joking. the /s means sarcasm

I thought it would have been obvious, me having owned a 996, that I was regurgitating the stuff being thrown my way from back in the day. I was attempting to use a more extreme version of what some believe about RAS to perhaps change perspective.

 

I had to look twice too! It must be a Canada build with 141k base price and 16k luxury tax.

 

yeah. I went a bit nuts with interior stuff I will touch and look at every day. Also expensive options like the FAL and 18 way seats which may or may not be useful. Also Canadian pesos. And the luxury tax. And includes the winter wheels/tires.

 

I'm trying to decide whether it's worth upgrading to the Bose sound system on my T order. I don't listen to music much while driving my current 991.1 (with Bose), so I think I'd be okay with the base radio, but I've heard that it's really bad. Anyone have the base radio and happy with it?

 

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I have the base radio and it’s perfectly fine. I don’t get the problem with it and think the music comes from the engine. I can still listen perfectly even with the valve gates open. The T is a loud car, don’t waste $$ on a stereo.

 

Congrats, enjoy. Just don’t ever try to trade it in!

 

The Bose is better than the base stereo but still not good and not worth the upcharge. Go Burmester or stay with the base. I don't get the interest in a fancy stereo for the Carrera T. I prefer listening to the engine, which was obviously part of the model's plan.

 

haha not planning to, ever.