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Old 03-14-2024, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortseller
It’s ok, let it go! Your T is still lightweight. 😁
Hah I'm not disappointed. Just surprised they'd built two different specs on back to back days.

Is the EU mandating LiPo or something? I dunno.
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Old 03-14-2024, 04:11 PM
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You can always swap the AGM for an aftermarket lithium battery.
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Old 03-14-2024, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishah
Hah I'm not disappointed. Just surprised they'd built two different specs on back to back days.

Is the EU mandating LiPo or something? I dunno.
Yeah, who knows? My 2018 M3 Comp was fitted with a Lithium battery. Now I gotta by a different Ctek. Sounds like we are going backwards?
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Old 03-14-2024, 04:17 PM
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You can always swap the AGM for an aftermarket lithium battery.
AGM, cheaper and last longer?
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Old 03-14-2024, 04:28 PM
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AGM, cheaper and last longer?
I think Porsche charges the same regardless of what battery they give you.

How long either will last is probably going to depend a lot on individual use cases, but I believe LFP has a much longer potential life span.
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Old 03-14-2024, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike818
I think Porsche charges the same regardless of what battery they give you.

How long either will last is probably going to depend a lot on individual use cases, but I believe LFP has a much longer potential life span.
I think he means cheaper to replace when they fail: $300 versus $3,000.
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Old 03-14-2024, 05:00 PM
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This has been gone over a few different times so I'll try and do a quick TLDR:

There are two potential batteries you can get from Porsche one is classic lead acid (AGM) the other is LiFePO4. They each use a different ground harness.

The AGM ground harness is battery agnostic, and will work with any potential replacement battery regardless of manufacturer, including Lithium batteries meant to replace AGM.

The lithium ground harness will only work with Porsche's proprietary lithium battery.

If you need to replace the battery not only is the AGM from Porsche cheaper, but you also have plenty of aftermarket options. The lithium battery is many times more expensive and your only straight forward option is an OEM replacement.

It has been reported* that all that is necessary to swap away from the Porsche proprietary lithium battery is to swap the lithium ground harness to the AGM ground harness. This would be a one time cost of ~100 bucks give or take.

*I haven't seen any first hand testimonials posted
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Originally Posted by Mike818
This has been gone over a few different times so I'll try and do a quick TLDR:

There are two potential batteries you can get from Porsche one is classic lead acid (AGM) the other is LiFePO4. They each use a different ground harness.

The AGM ground harness is battery agnostic, and will work with any potential replacement battery regardless of manufacturer, including Lithium batteries meant to replace AGM.

The lithium ground harness will only work with Porsche's proprietary lithium battery.

If you need to replace the battery not only is the AGM from Porsche cheaper, but you also have plenty of aftermarket options. The lithium battery is many times more expensive and your only straight forward option is an OEM replacement.

It has been reported* that all that is necessary to swap away from the Porsche proprietary lithium battery is to swap the lithium ground harness to the AGM ground harness. This would be a one time cost of ~100 bucks give or take.

*I haven't seen any first hand testimonials posted
If it’s environmental friendly and can be disposed of or recharged inexpensively, I’m all in for the AGM.
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AGM…😝



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Originally Posted by Shortseller
If it’s environmental friendly and can be disposed of or recharged inexpensively, I’m all in for the AGM.
Either way my T comes, I don't want to be stuck with a proprietary battery. So my fingers are crossed for the AGM so I can do a simple swap to an aftermarket lithium.

No idea about the environmentals of Pb vs. LFP in the context of a starting battery. LFP does have some things going for it though. It's lighter, so all the goodness that comes with (incl. fuel savings). LFP unlike some other popular lithium chemistries doesn't use rare earth metals. LFP also has the potential to last a lot longer than lead acid. Still though, I have no idea which ultimately is "better" for the environment.
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Old 03-14-2024, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nadvice
which model is the CTEK equivalent?
@Nadvice I guess you need the one shown in the photo above posted by @dmia which is specific for Life PO.
However if your car has AGM I guess you need the one posted by @Shortseller
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Old 03-14-2024, 08:36 PM
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signature wheels fit great

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signature wheels fit great
We need more pictures!
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signature wheels fit great
Let's see the side profile...they look great!
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Originally Posted by Icegrill
Probably has to do with ROW spec vs NA build.

Bingo!
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