992 Carrera T Club
I just dropped my T off at the dealer to fix the heated steering wheel (at 300 miles?!) and got a ride back to my office in a base Macan with the ventilated seats. I'm sure they are a somewhat different seat but the seat bottom was rock hard compared to our prior Macan, current 718 and 992.
Just as big an issue for me was that leather wears much better than synthetics (or any fabrics) over time, so I wanted full-leather (ventilated or not). I drive this car every day, and plan to for a long time. Sport-tex is a cool look, though.
In terms of firmness - yes ventilated seats are firmer. No, they are not "rock hard." My seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I've spent time in, maybe that's just luck vs my build.
Last edited by gargey; 02-14-2024 at 06:18 PM.
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I just dropped my T off at the dealer to fix the heated steering wheel (at 300 miles?!) and got a ride back to my office in a base Macan with the ventilated seats. I'm sure they are a somewhat different seat but the seat bottom was rock hard compared to our prior Macan, current 718 and 992.
I've said it before, but I love my seats. Ventilated 4-ways. I'm in Houston, ventilated is critical. I hear what people say on the Sport-tex but it's not going to compete with ventilated when the climate is this bad.
Just as big an issue for me was that leather wears much better than synthetics (or any fabrics) over time, so I wanted full-leather (ventilated or not). I drive this car every day, and plan to for a long time. Sport-tex is a cool look, though.
In terms of firmness - yes ventilated seats are firmer. No, they are not "rock hard." My seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I've spent time in, maybe that's just luck vs my build.
Just as big an issue for me was that leather wears much better than synthetics (or any fabrics) over time, so I wanted full-leather (ventilated or not). I drive this car every day, and plan to for a long time. Sport-tex is a cool look, though.
In terms of firmness - yes ventilated seats are firmer. No, they are not "rock hard." My seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I've spent time in, maybe that's just luck vs my build.
I've said it before, but I love my seats. Ventilated 4-ways. I'm in Houston, ventilated is critical. I hear what people say on the Sport-tex but it's not going to compete with ventilated when the climate is this bad.
Just as big an issue for me was that leather wears much better than synthetics (or any fabrics) over time, so I wanted full-leather (ventilated or not). I drive this car every day, and plan to for a long time. Sport-tex is a cool look, though.
In terms of firmness - yes ventilated seats are firmer. No, they are not "rock hard." My seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I've spent time in, maybe that's just luck vs my build.
Just as big an issue for me was that leather wears much better than synthetics (or any fabrics) over time, so I wanted full-leather (ventilated or not). I drive this car every day, and plan to for a long time. Sport-tex is a cool look, though.
In terms of firmness - yes ventilated seats are firmer. No, they are not "rock hard." My seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I've spent time in, maybe that's just luck vs my build.
All to their own but sitting on rack hard benches NO!
Best Devon Racer.
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Motorin Mark (02-14-2024)
@gargey We are in a minority on this feed, but I totally agree with you. I don't not find the seat cushions too hard at all and with 18 ways the options for comfort settings are hugely extendable. I actually think the perforated leather to allow the venting will actually decrease the amount of sag and creases in the long term.
All to their own but sitting on rack hard benches NO!
Best Devon Racer.
All to their own but sitting on rack hard benches NO!
Best Devon Racer.
Add me to the list. Florida is HOT! I would not have one without ventilation everywhere I can get it. My 991 has it now and it is my favorite option.
Brakes
Just noticed how much bigger the front calipers are than the rear but they are both 4 piston. I guess I never realized that Porsche has two different size pistons for the front and rear. Please
correct me if I’m wrong.
correct me if I’m wrong.
Exclusive design wheels with T
I’m struggling with the shininess of the exclusive design wheels but love that they are forged/light and reminiscent to me of the old Fuchs wheels. Curious if anyone has seen any of these either painted like the other two T wheel options are or maybe the inner faces at least painted in platinum like you see in black on some of the other models. I’ve searched but my Rennlist-fu could be weak so apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere. I have a few weeks before order lock and this is one of my only remaining debates so reaching out to see if anyone has seen anything. Thanks!
Need? No. I'm in Arizona where it's hotter than Hades, and vented is definitely a "want", not a "need". Sport-Tex works awesome in hot weather.
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Anyhow, in my experience cloth / sport-tex either doesn't get as hot or cools down faster on hot days, doesn't get as cold or warms up faster on cold days, and is so much grippier when you sit on it. For me it is a win all around and I'm glad we had the choice to go cloth or leather.
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Wilder (02-16-2024)
Ventilated seats are really just blowers that help with evaporative cooling. They just blow ambient air from inside the cabin through the holes in your seat. To be really effective on a hot day, you'd run A/C right? Or you'd turn off the A/C and blow 100F air through the seat? Last time I checked, all our 992's have A/C assuming one of you crazy weight weenies already removed yours.
I like the vented seats based on experiencing it, and it working very effectively, and feeling good, not theory. I've been in other cars that had it where it wasn't as good. I don't doubt Sport-tex is good or mind if anyone likes it (duh).
Last edited by gargey; 02-15-2024 at 12:09 PM.
That's interesting. In my experience, "leather" seat centers always sag and show creases and wear & tear far earlier than synthetic textile centers. I dislike looking at used cars with sagged leather seat centers. Almost all of the leather seats in used cars are saggy and show creases in the driver's seats, while textile sport seats don't show much wear and do not sag at all, until they tear apart in abuse.
The 14 way seats with ventilation in the Macan are the worst. They are like sitting on stadium bleachers with the about same amount of support to me. Those seats are clearly designed for large people and people wearing dresses to slide in and out of as easily as possible over comfort or support. I have the ventilated 18 ways in both my Macan and Cayman and they are completely different.