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Old 12-26-2023, 12:18 PM
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[QUOTE=TUD;19185389]Agreed re the storage package. I did not spec it as well. If it is repeatedly used, over time the netting stretches out and looks like $hit. Example, look at any Z3 Roadster/Coupe (M models included) that had storage netting on passenger side of the transmission tunnel. If one intends to keep their 992 indefinitely then I would skip it.

The passenger net was included in the premium package on my S, no way not to get it since I wanted the premium package, but I would prefer it not being there also. I agree that if used they get "saggy" and look terrible with time. Sure enough if I remove it when the day comes to sell my car somebody will say "you got the premium package, where the h#ll is you passenger net?" LOL





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Old 12-26-2023, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilder
Just because things are free, doesn't mean you ought to order them. Skipped the storage package and the rear seats too. The one freebie to get is the manual transmission.

Totally agree even though I like the rear seats for four reasons, 1.The interior looks unfinished to my eyes without them. 2. The insignificant weight gain (21.5 lbs seats & belts) is trivial given what little I weigh as it is not going to make any difference. 3. Resale… Per my Porsche SA with forty years of experience more buyers want them in a 911 than don’t. 4. If I wanted another sports car without rear seats I would just purchase a manual Cayman GTS 4.0, plus we own a BMW Roadster (2 seater).

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Old 12-26-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Totally agree even though I like the rear seats for four reasons, 1.The interior looks unfinished to my eyes without them. 2. the weight gain is very little (21.5 seats & belts) and given what little I weigh it is not going to make a difference. 3. Resale… Per my Porsche SA with forty years of experience more people want them in a 911 then don’t. 4. If I wanted another sports car without rear seats, I would just buy a Cayman GTS 4.0, plus we own a BMW Roadster.
Same exact reasons I got them as well.
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Old 12-26-2023, 12:29 PM
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I also did not spec the smoking package for the free cup. If I can afford the car, I can clearly afford to pay $75 for the cup if I desire it at a later date. 😂
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Old 12-26-2023, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Totally agree even though I like the rear seats for four reasons, 1.The interior looks unfinished to my eyes without them. 2. the weight gain is very little (21.5 seats & belts) and given what little I weigh it is not going to make a difference. 3. Resale… Per my Porsche SA with forty years of experience more people want them in a 911 then don’t. 4. If I wanted another sports car without rear seats, I would just buy a Cayman GTS 4.0, plus we own a BMW Roadster.
There's nothing wrong with rear seats on a 911. For me, having kids up to 12 y/o would be the only reason to get them. Since I don't have any and therefore have no use for them, I see no reason to lug some useless weight around. I understand your preferences. Mine are that the rear seats make it look more like a GT car and less like a sports car and I could care less about resale. Do you have a link to that reference of 21.5 lbs on the rear seats?
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Old 12-26-2023, 12:59 PM
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[QUOTE=masmole;19185273]
Originally Posted by TheSunTheSea
Got a T allocation a few weeks ago and finally landed on a build: https://configurator.porsche.com/en-...dFrom=PRESM165

Change Freeze is 2/4, manufacturing complete 3/11, and delivery slated for 4/19

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Nice build! You probably already know this, but by choosing the seat ventilation, you not only lose the sport-tex seat centers which are unique to the T, but you also lose the “911” embroidery on the head rests which would’ve been in guards red deviated stitching to match the rest of the deviated stitching package you’ve chosen. But if the aim was to make the seat centers leather, I get it.

I wish they would have offered stitching in other colors. Look how nice the red looks inside this 911.
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Old 12-26-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilder
There's nothing wrong with rear seats on a 911. For me, having kids up to 12 y/o would be the only reason to get them. Since I don't have any and therefore have no use for them, I see no reason to lug some useless weight around. I understand your preferences. Mine are that the rear seats make it look more like a GT car and less like a sports car and I could care less about resale. Do you have a link to that reference of 21.5 lbs on the rear seats?
I gotcha…. The 911 has grown so much in size that it is certainly in the Grand Tourer (GT) territory. For me, if I wanted a real Porsche GT car without rear seats I would just purchase a GT3 Touring and yes I am well aware that it would have to be a preowned unit. I have zero use for a GT 911 where we reside as it would be a total waste due to the ever increasing traffic. One thing is certain, it is not going to improve either, it is only going to continue to worsen.

Regarding the 21.5 lbs. The info was via a RL post by an individual that had removed the rear seats and belts from his own 911. No link, but I should have a screenshot of the post within my iPad. It will take some time to locate it though and I will have to do so sometime later this evening.

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Old 12-26-2023, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortseller

I wish they would have offered stitching in other colors. Look how nice the red looks inside this 911.
Oh but they do… at an additional cost via full leather and deviated stitching. 💰
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Old 12-26-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Oh but they do… at an additional cost via full leather and deviated stitching. 💰
Like over $8 grand if I read it correctly?

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Old 12-26-2023, 01:10 PM
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I feel like the 992 T has a very low take rate on Carmine Red, would be very interested to see color split for the new gen once production ends,
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Old 12-26-2023, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortseller
Like over $8 grand if I read it correctly?

Yep, correct. Hence the bag of money emoji I used.



Originally Posted by Alek
I feel like the 992 T has a very low take rate on Carmine Red, would be very interested to see color split for the new gen once production ends,
My dealer has had many 992 T customer orders (pre-sold units) and only one has been spec’ed in Carmine Red.

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Old 12-26-2023, 01:28 PM
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[QUOTE=masmole;[url=tel:19185273]19185273[/url]]
Originally Posted by TheSunTheSea;[url=tel:19185083
19185083[/url]]Got a T allocation a few weeks ago and finally landed on a build: https://configurator.porsche.com/en-...dFrom=PRESM165

Change Freeze is 2/4, manufacturing complete 3/11, and delivery slated for 4/19

[ /QUOTE]
Nice build! You probably already know this, but by choosing the seat ventilation, you not only lose the sport-tex seat centers which are unique to the T, but you also lose the “911” embroidery on the head rests which would’ve been in guards red deviated stitching to match the rest of the deviated stitching package you’ve chosen. But if the aim was to make the seat centers leather, I get it.

yeah that was the main aim (to make it all leather). I actually don’t care for the ventilation but that was the only way to make it a full leather kit

i hear your reasoning and I’ve been on the fence whether to go back to the Race-Tex centers or not. I hate losing the 911 on the seats but at the same time I really like the full leather look
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Originally Posted by Alek
I feel like the 992 T has a very low take rate on Carmine Red, would be very interested to see color split for the new gen once production ends,
It's really because Guards red is a classic Porsche color and is a FREE option on the 992, so it becomes tough to justify spending an extra $3k+ on Carmine which under bright sunlight, doesn't really look that different from Guards.

I justified it though

Carmine T arriving around April
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Originally Posted by masmole
It's really because Guards red is a classic Porsche color and is a FREE option on the 992, so it becomes tough to justify spending an extra $3k+ on Carmine which under bright sunlight, doesn't really look that different from Guards.
This, and Carmine looks more like a Ferrari red. Porsches are not Ferraris according to this book I read.
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Old 12-26-2023, 03:35 PM
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Dragy numbers !!

2023 992T, stage 2 M-Tune, 200 down pipes and akra exhaust, no dyno but expecting 425-450 to the wheels
0-60 —> 3.19
rest are all tesla x awd numbers
can’t wait to track this monster in 2024 and get the turbo upgrades & apex wheels to get the numbers down to 2.5 to 60 with 600+ Hp to the wheels

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