Vernin

It is a manual, with the sport design package and Exclusive Design Wheels which I think look amazing, I believe it has a metal sunroof. 4 or 18 way seats, Leather package.
It looked very good in the evening dusk so I had to take a picture, and was hoping it was one of you

RatherJaded

Eff that! Brr… It is currently 19 here with a feel like temperature of 9. It appears we got an additional 2 inches of snow overnight and if true that makes 12 inches received. GF in Charleston, SC had temps near 70 yesterday. It’s currently 60 there and it is not even 10:30 in the morning. I gotta move to the SC Low Country!

loweredmars

Man, that does look really good. My freeze date is currently set for March 4th and I've been wrestling over wheels and colors... my current build is Gentian Blue with the Spyder Design wheels, but this makes the Exclusive Design wheels look great too!

Vernin

I bet the gentian blue with the exclusive wheels would look amazing. So will the spider wheels, it is such a hard choice.
Which do you like more?

tourenwagen

Nice and toasty for the winter! Interesting that the top is down on the Boxter. Don't they recommend putting it up for extended periods of time to prevent creasing/cracking?

loweredmars

I actually had the opportunity over the weekend to visit a couple local dealerships and see all three wheel options in person, which is what prompted changing the build to the Spyder Design wheels. I had originally spec'd the Carrera S wheels in titanium gray, but there's something about the Spyders that I like. I just traded my 991.2 GTS which had centerlock Spyder wheels and they looked great as well... judging by experience, I'm sure I'll wish I had the Exclusive wheels every time I clean the Spyders though lol.

VarTheVar

I've driven both before as well. My comment was about how the cars feel vs each other, not the performance levels. I was agreeing with @SapphireBlue981S but also trying to drive the point home of how different the 2 cars feel. The 992 platform is ultra refined. The steering feedback is more filtered. The sensory experience is more muted. The front end on the T is way less responsive than a GT4.

SapphireBlue981S

I interpreted the question posed by @Wilder as a commentary on the subjective driving experience and feel rather than lap times and G forces.

SapphireBlue981S

yes the front end responsiveness of the GT4 is unreal , the slightest steering input will have you change lanes. I would say its 1.5x as sensitive as the 992T steering input.

Wilder

What toe are you running? Camber helps but it's the toe that would make the car more responsive. Mine is definitely sharper with 0 toe.

Not sure you would shave a few seconds with Cup2s on a small course but I think it would be as fast or slightly faster than the GT4 in that particular course on the same day.

I view the 992 T, the GT4 and the 997.2 GT3 as having similar performance envelopes. However, as you point out, the T is more of a road car that can be tracked vs the GT4 and GT3 which are more track oriented cars that can be driven on the road. That said, how you option and mod a T could change it's character to the extent that it might match the character of a 991.2 GT3T, which is more "road friendly" than the current GT3T, which is more of an "RS lite" and not really a great "touring" car. The GT4, in my view, is more of a middle-of-the-road that does a lot but not very well. I skipped it for that reason and Instead bought the softer T and the more raw 7.2 GT3.

SapphireBlue981S

i can let you know in April, I’ll be at Watkins Glen and my 992T will have 19”/20” Apex VS5RS with Nankang CRSv2 equipped. I have all my Garmin Catalyst data to compare the OEM 20/21” wheels with PZeroes. Let’s see how much quicker the car will be and I’m sure there will be a couple of GT4s to share notes with.

Shortseller

Anyone else waiting on a car delivery from the port at Jacksonville FL ?

I am waiting on my 911T three weeks now.

Thanks I appreciate any information on deliveries in that area. Siem Confucius was the boat.

VarTheVar

Honestly I'd be happy with either car if they were priced correctly, but I think GT4s are priced astronomically high for a platform that hasn't been shown enough love or updated to reflect how much money they want for one. At the end of the day it's still a Cayman. It's got strut rear suspension. It's a 12 year old platform that's been re-skinned. It's got bad gearing. The interior is meh. If you're asking 911 prices for a Cayman then I expect it to have 911 levels of love shown to it in development.

Wilder

I think the 981 GT4 is the bargain of this decade. Regearing is 5K? Demann and you'd have a monster just below the cost of a new T. But I'm a 911 guy.

VarTheVar

I thought it was $12k to regear the transmission. I guess you could do the final drive but that doesn't fix the gear spread and then 6th gear would be sky high on the freeway. But I'll disagree with you on this one. The 718 platform is overpriced and unloved and I suspect they didn't want to give it a proper update based on it going to EV soon