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My dates went backwards also. My car hit Emdem yesterday and about four hours after I got that notification all the dates went backwards by about seven days. I don’t know why. I wonder if it’s happening to everyone? I was also trying to wonder if it’s good news for me or it’s just a computer error?
Either way you’re almost done man. Congrats. Looking forward to seeing your final pictures.
I’m wondering if it has anything to do with the original dates when I first ordered the car because back then delivery was June 5 (now jr shows June 6). But it’s bizarre. Thank you, I can’t wait!!
Originally Posted by Just J
TYD is a dumpster fire. As someone with a career in IT, I would be so embarrassed if that was my product.
Seriously! Is there no internal quality control at Porsche?!
TYD is a dumpster fire. As someone with a career in IT, I would be so embarrassed if that was my product.
Just out of curiosity, why do you say that? I mean logistics is logistics and this is a massive operation. One factory where they pretty much get the TYD dates right 90% of the time. It can’t be correct 100% of the time because they are counting on parts arriving from all over the world to arrive just in time to build these cars. And then off to a port where they are going to hop on ships going all around the world. This is where it gets tricky especially this year. They have not replaced the ship that sank two years ago so that’s out of rotation and the factory has had a post Covid bump in production producing many more cars than they did last year. The thing I would think they should be embarrassed about is their lack of shipping. They knew ahead of time how many cars they’ve authorized through allocation reports so I would think they should’ve planned for shipping better. But then again I’m no expert at logistics. John Barnum pretty much mastered that 120 years ago and I ain’t him. Lol. Watching videos on how FedEx and UPS pull it off is pretty impressive also. However, all of that really doesn’t have anything to do with TYD. What don’t you like about it? I think it works and has been just as accurate as BMWs build tracking software and I’ve done three cars with them in the last year and a half.
Just out of curiosity, why do you say that? I mean logistics is logistics and this is a massive operation. One factory where they pretty much get the TYD dates right 90% of the time. It can’t be correct 100% of the time because they are counting on parts arriving from all over the world to arrive just in time to build these cars. And then off to a port where they are going to hop on ships going all around the world. This is where it gets tricky especially this year. They have not replaced the ship that sank two years ago so that’s out of rotation and the factory has had a post Covid bump in production producing many more cars than they did last year. The thing I would think they should be embarrassed about is their lack of shipping. They knew ahead of time how many cars they’ve authorized through allocation reports so I would think they should’ve planned for shipping better. But then again I’m no expert at logistics. John Barnum pretty much mastered that 120 years ago and I ain’t him. Lol. Watching videos on how FedEx and UPS pull it off is pretty impressive also. However, all of that really doesn’t have anything to do with TYD. What don’t you like about it? I think it works and has been just as accurate as BMWs build tracking software and I’ve done three cars with them in the last year and a half.
problem here is not the logistics aspect. Dates reverting back like that is evidence that an engineer somewhere didn’t QC the code well, or QA team didn’t do adequate regression testing, or some test scenario was simply not accounted for. This just further highlights the gaps that we all knew existed.
problem here is not the logistics aspect. Dates reverting back like that is evidence that an engineer somewhere didn’t QC the code well, or QA team didn’t do adequate regression testing, or some test scenario was simply not accounted for. This just further highlights the gaps that we all knew existed.
How do you know that someone didn’t move those dates back on purpose manually? When my build date turned out to be wrong, they moved it forward one week. They did this three weeks in advance. That adjustment turned out to be 100% correct. I really don’t have any idea and I’m just speculating. All I’m saying is my dates have been pretty accurate. Every bit as much as BMWs.
How do you know that someone didn’t move those dates back on purpose manually? When my build date turned out to be wrong, they moved it forward one week. They did this three weeks in advance. That adjustment turned out to be 100% correct. I really don’t have any idea and I’m just speculating. All I’m saying is my dates have been pretty accurate. Every bit as much as BMWs.
If someone deliberately moved the delivery date to May when it’s middle of July. I’d start asking different questions.
Honestly, I don’t really care. TYD is nice to have, and I’m glad it’s available. With this being my second time tracking it, I did not have high expectations.
But I have to agree with Just J, I would not be happy with myself if I was a product manager or a product owner for this and pushed something like this to the public.
If someone deliberately moved the delivery date to May when it’s middle of July. I’d start asking different questions.
Honestly, I don’t really care. TYD is nice to have, and I’m glad it’s available. With this being my second time tracking it, I did not have high expectations.
But I have to agree with Just J, I would not be happy with myself if I was a product manager or a product owner for this and pushed something like this to the public.
If times change they have to change the dates right? If a shipment of parts is behind then scheduling changes. My manufacturing plant goes through it all the time. It definitely has gotten better for my company though the further away from Covid we get.
TYD is a crap shoot once the cars get to Emden. Its not a FIFO process to load cars on ships so the estimated dates are never accurate. There are too many external dependencies and unknowns for this stage to be accurate.
The part I find frustrating is that dealers do not have any insight to delays once the cars arrive at the local ports. My car has been stuck for 3+ weeks now with no info - even the dealers tracking system shows a delivery date of 7/7 which hasnt updated lol.
Some others in this thread had their cars released yesterday but mine is still stuck at port going through PDI and the dealer still doesn't know.
I have ordered handful of BMW's start to finish and every single one hit the milestones. The BMW Vehicle Processing Center - VPC targets 1 week and hits the target.
I haven't heard of situations with their cars coming with "missing parts" which holds up cars at the port for weeks. So hopefully Porsche can learn a thing or two and improve the overall process.
07-18-2023, 11:39 AM
